Euston closed (power outage) and other stories...

[A Challenge]

How dies it work if the oyster is down, presumably if you touch in at EUS underground after touching in at a station on the overground from Watford Junction it assumes you went via Euston (and vice versa), or is it not that intelligent?

 

[Elecman]

In relation to the DNO side of things. Who actually maintains the electric supplies? Is it UK Power Networks seeing as they are the DNO for London and the South East or do Network Rail have a separate DNO who does the work for them?

I travelled back up from London on Thursday afternoon and expected the station concourse to be jam packed with people and the trains to be full, but the 1343 from Euston back up to Glasgow was relatively quiet even though TOC's were allowing tickets that should have been used on the Wednesday.

In London it UKPN that is the host DNO and who supplies the electric connections. There are no independant DNOs as such but there are IDNOs ( Independant ) that can do connections onto the host DNO network and act as a de facto supplier

 

[GaryMcEwan]

In London it UKPN that is the host DNO and who supplies the electric connections. There are no independant DNOs as such but there are IDZnOs that can do connections onto the host DNO network

Yeah we call them Independent DNO's at work as they assign their own unique MPAN distribution codes but they fall back onto the host depending on the MPAN area if any problems arise.

 

[Elecman]

Yeah we call them Independent DNO's at work as they assign their own unique MPAN distribution codes but they fall back onto the host depending on the MPAN area if any problems arise.

That's the ones, NR don't use them but some TOCs have and then run into major problems

 

[Elecman]

Do I read this correctly that Euston was operating with a system known to be degraded in the run up to this?

I couldn't confirm or deny that we are in Election Purdah

 

[SpacePhoenix]

How far up the tracks from the buffer stops was the OLE and 3rd rail out for (or where they still functioning normally)?

 

[Bletchleyite]

Regarding LEDs, it was me that mentioned them, and it wasn't regarding festoons, it was more a suggestion that the main station lighting should be replaced with LEDs, some of which could then remain lit by battery power (potentially even local Li-Ion battery power) for quite some time in the event of an emergency.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Euston-Watford DC service back to normal today, earlier than once mooted...

 

[Parham Wood]

Guildford wouldn't be as dark as Euston but the footbridge certainly was gloomy and the subway, which was probably closed, would be very dark.

Good point - I forgot about the subway!

 

[HSTEd]

Surely if there is one organisation that could operate an independent distribution system it is the railway?

 

[QueensCurve]

I couldn't confirm or deny that we are in Election Purdah

It falls within the remit of election purdah? :cry:

Edit: Election Purdah doesn't apply yet.

 

[GW43125]

deleted as i stuffed up my maths again

 

[AndyNLondon]

How dies it work if the oyster is down, presumably if you touch in at EUS underground after touching in at a station on the overground from Watford Junction it assumes you went via Euston (and vice versa), or is it not that intelligent?

Oyster can be made to assume incomplete journeys are to a particular location, rather than applying the maximum fare, though I don't know how it's implemented or if it was done this time. (I know it is possible because I've seen it done for major events at Alexandra Palace: Oyster readers turned off, all gates open, and announcements along the lines of "you don't need to touch out, you will be automatically charged the correct fare.")

 

[Elecman]

Surely if there is one organisation that could operate an independent distribution system it is the railway?

Yes but the ELEXON rules wouldn't allow for Network Rail to become one.