Eurostar yesterday - 11 hours delay(!!!)

[Triddle]

Just had a quick look at Zugfinder for no particular reason, and the headline is that yesterday's (24.04.23) EST 9116 from London to Brussels had a delay of 678 minutes, and a few days ago there was a delay of 416 min.

https://www.zugfinder.net/en/zug-EST_9116-120

Anybody know what might have caused these mega-delays? Or is there perhaps some weird procedural reason for these delay times that didn't have such a large impact on passengers (eg train delayed but replacement ran). Has ES reliability really plummeted so far?

As a regular (if infrequent) user of Eurostar I'm a little shocked, I really wouldn't want to spend 11 hours, or even 4 hours extra on a train, particularly not with needing to make onward connections, and the statistics I'm seeing on Zugfinder don't tally with my own experiences over the years.

 

[Fragezeichnen]

I think you are placing far too much trust in ZugFinder, a privately run site which as far as I know relies entirely on information sources to which automated access is tolerated but not officially supported.

If a Eurostar train was genuinely delayed by 11 hours, it would be on the front page of the Daily Mail.

Eurostar does not provide publically available real time train information at station to station level. The source of ZugFinders information appears to an very obscure website that is somehow connected to Dutch National Railways - but this train doesn't even go to the Netherlands. Goodness knows how or if at all the train running information is somehow propagated - or not, from Brussels Signalling Control Centre to NS HighSpeed.

 

[Trainbike46]

Just had a quick look at Zugfinder for no particular reason, and the headline is that yesterday's (24.04.23) EST 9116 from London to Brussels had a delay of 678 minutes, and a few days ago there was a delay of 416 min.

https://www.zugfinder.net/en/zug-EST_9116-120

Anybody know what might have caused these mega-delays? Or is there perhaps some weird procedural reason for these delay times that didn't have such a large impact on passengers (eg train delayed but replacement ran). Has ES reliability really plummeted so far?

As a regular (if infrequent) user of Eurostar I'm a little shocked, I really wouldn't want to spend 11 hours, or even 4 hours extra on a train, particularly not with needing to make onward connections, and the statistics I'm seeing on Zugfinder don't tally with my own experiences over the years.

Unless there was some kind of major event, like the channel tunnel/HS1/LGV nord being shut for a very long time, it seems highly unlikely this true.

Looking at realtimetrains, it appears as though it reached the channel tunnel on time: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C06957/2023-04-24/detailed

 

[Triddle]

I think you are placing far too much trust in ZugFinder, a privately run site which as far as I know relies entirely on information sources to which automated access is tolerated but not officially supported.

OK, the fact that the data shown is very likely inaccurate is reassuring.

If a Eurostar train was genuinely delayed by 11 hours, it would be on the front page of the Daily Mail.

Unless there was some kind of major event, like the channel tunnel/HS1/LGV nord being shut for a very long time, it seems highly unlikely this true.

I was a little puzzled that there was no other information about this massive delay. But I came to the right place for the answer - thanks for the responses.

 

[peterblue]

An 11 hour delay doesn't seem correct unless there's a accident/tunnel closure. That sort of thing would be on the news

 

[rf_ioliver]

If a Eurostar train was genuinely delayed by 11 hours, it would be on the front page of the Daily Mail.

"EUSSR and French Bureaucrats snub British Sovereignty by blocking Chunnel with small boats...." ... I'm trying to get Harry and Megan into there too...

Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[30907]

.. I'm trying to get Harry and Megan into there

Into the tunnel? Surely the are allowed to enter the UK legally ?

 

[Gloster]

"EUSSR and French Bureaucrats snub British Sovereignty by blocking Chunnel with small boats...." ... I'm trying to get Harry and Megan into there too...

You forgot to mention that it is being organised by Keir Starmer.