Eurostar security

[Route115?]

I had a (not very sharp) kitchen knife confiscated once at Harwich.

 

[tgsh2011]

The latest security entertainment is at Paris Gare du Nord. That station requires you to remover laptops and iPads. Funny enough, they do not seem to be an issue at any other departure station, either St Pancras, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, or Brussels.

 

[TFN]

The latest security entertainment is at Paris Gare du Nord. That station requires you to remover laptops and iPads. Funny enough, they do not seem to be an issue at any other departure station, either St Pancras, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, or Brussels.

Lille requires you to remove electronics from your bag. It must be a French requirement.

 

[30907]

The latest security entertainment is at Paris Gare du Nord. That station requires you to remover laptops and iPads. Funny enough, they do not seem to be an issue at any other departure station, either St Pancras, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, or Brussels.

In the days when I flew, the same inconsistency was present. I never worked out whether it was national policy or local

 

[topydre]

Lille requires you to remove electronics from your bag. It must be a French requirement.

The excess baggage place at Euston also ask for it. Apparently it's something to do with scanners.

 

[blimmo]

It's pointless theatre. They know the passport control is usually the bottleneck and that people expect security to cross the border due to their experiences with planes so won't complain much. Security on flights is so important because of the potential for hijacking, Eurostar doesn't need it since you can't hijack a train.

 

[30907]

It's pointless theatre. They know the passport control is usually the bottleneck and that people expect security to cross the border due to their experiences with planes so won't complain much. Security on flights is so important because of the potential for hijacking, Eurostar doesn't need it since you can't hijack a train.

No, but ISTR you can bomb it

 

[Bletchleyite]

The excess baggage place at Euston also ask for it. Apparently it's something to do with scanners.

Circuit boards in electronics really do obstruct the scanner's view. It's one of the few rules relating to this sort of thing that I think makes sense.

Newer CT type scanners can see through them.

 

[williamn]

No, but ISTR you can bomb it

You could. You could bomb any train. Or the track. Or any tunnel. So why security in Eurostar but not the ex Thalys routes? Why not on the Severn Tunnel?

 

[Bletchleyite]

You could. You could bomb any train. Or the track. Or any tunnel. So why security in Eurostar but not the ex Thalys routes? Why not on the Severn Tunnel?

Because it's about the highest profile potential rail target in Europe if not the world.

 

[williamn]

Because it's about the highest profile potential rail target in Europe if not the world.

Are Washington to New York or Paris to Brussels so significantly lower profile that terrorists simply won’t bother with them? The fact is that attacks are prevented by intelligence services not bag scans.

 

[nwales58]

You could. You could bomb any train. Or the track. Or any tunnel. So why security in Eurostar but not the ex Thalys routes? Why not on the Severn Tunnel?

Ask DfT Land Transport Security (formerly Transec). They are God in these matters.

Land Transport Security

www.gov.uk

The Land Transport Security (LTS) team in the Department for Transport is responsible for setting policy in relation to counter-terrorist security on:

• the national rail network
• London Underground and other light rail networks
• buses and coaches
• the Channel Tunnel
• international rail services
• LTS delivers the counter terrorist security compliance programmes for the national railway network, London Underground and other light rail networks regulated for security, the Channel Tunnel and international rail services and the carriage of dangerous goods by rail and road.

The objectives of the compliance programmes and the processes, principles and working practices followed by LTS inspectors are set out in the Land Transport Security compliance policy framework.

Also responsible for requiring all the stainless steel clad deep pillar bollards around stations and airports. They specify, we pay the costs.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Are Washington to New York or Paris to Brussels so significantly lower profile that terrorists simply won’t bother with them?

Yes.

The fact is that attacks are prevented by intelligence services not bag scans.

This just isn't true. The approach is multifaceted. Like accidents, it's Swiss cheese - there are a load of layers each with holes in them, if something gets through a hole in one layer another layer might stop them.

 

[mad_rich]

The latest security entertainment is at Paris Gare du Nord. That station requires you to remover laptops and iPads. Funny enough, they do not seem to be an issue at any other departure station, either St Pancras, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, or Brussels.

No such requirement at Gare du Nord for me on Tuesday, although myself and the passenger in front were stopped for an explosives swab. It's very variable.

We were also directed not to use the EES machines - which looked like they were in use, as far as I could tell.