Eurostar driver vacancies

[ItchyRsole]

Fill your boots.

Drivers with 3 years experience

£67,000

https://www.eurostar.com/uk-en/about-eurostar/eurostar-careers/search-jobs

 

[flash]

Fantastic... but work for Thameslink get £69,000 (in 2019), free travel to work, International coupons.

Eurostar £67,000, no free travel to work, no International Coupons, training salary until validated (gossip states that will be Q4 2019).

So indeed fill your boots with debt.

 

[tiptoptaff]

Fantastic... but work for Thameslink get £69,000 (in 2019), free travel to work, International coupons.

Eurostar £67,000, no free travel to work, no International Coupons, training salary until validated (gossip states that will be Q4 2019).

So indeed fill your boots with debt.

I'd guess the work is quite repetitive too...

 

[MrPIC]

Does anyone here have first hand experience of what working for E* is like?

 

[godfreycomplex]

Thameslink - thrumming round and round the Catford/Wimbledon loop for hours on end; DOO; book on and off at silly o'clock with regular nights; under the umbrella of God's Terrible Railway
Eurostar - learn another language (which is a plus; job or no job); different rule books; lunch in Paris; they give you a hotel for dead earlies (contrary to popular belief lodging's about once a year); only driving for less than three hours at once (usually); and guards (and they're staying); primary school children get something really cool for careers day; you can still pay the mortgage
Money isn't everything...

 

[PudseyBearHST]

Thameslink - thrumming round and round the Catford/Wimbledon loop for hours on end; DOO; book on and off at silly o'clock with regular nights; under the umbrella of God's Terrible Railway
Eurostar - learn another language (which is a plus; job or no job); different rule books; lunch in Paris; they give you a hotel for dead earlies (contrary to popular belief lodging's about once a year); only driving for less than three hours at once (usually); primary school children get something really cool for careers day; you can still pay the mortgage
Money isn't everything...

I think you make some good points I've always wanted to learn another language but it's hard to stay committed to it and motivation can be low but I imagine it's a lot easier when it's part of your work. Also going to France daily sounds cool although the novelty probably will ware out.

 

[godfreycomplex]

I think you make some good points I've always wanted to learn another language but it's hard to stay committed to it and motivation can be low but I imagine it's a lot easier when it's part of your work. Also going to France daily sounds cool although the novelty probably will ware out.

Apparently (I stress I don't work for Eurostar so really my advice is probably useless) the French is something you have to want to do in and of itself; it isn't just a course you can go through to up your salary; it takes you up to European level B1 (which is post A-level) and takes a good few months

 

[Johncleesefan]

I would absolutely love to apply for it. It's just the upheaval of moving with a family solely for the job, is st Pancras an expensive area to buy a house in? I mean in relatively compared with the rest of the south east.

And yeh e* any day over gtr. Doo is poo

 

[godfreycomplex]

I would absolutely love to apply for it. It's just the upheaval of moving with a family solely for the job, is st Pancras an expensive area to buy a house in? I mean in relatively compared with the rest of the south east.

And yeh e* any day over gtr. Doo is poo

Incredibly expensive; yes.
That said,I don't think most drivers live nearby. AFAIK they give you a hotel room nearby if you book on before 06:30 (later at weekends possibly). So anywhere where you can be at St Pancras by then, so that's Leicester; Peterborough; Ramsgate; Brighton and everywhere in between.

 

[Johncleesefan]

Ooh interesting I have close friends living in Peterborough so that could go on the pros list. Thanks for the info

 

[PudseyBearHST]

Apparently (I stress I don't work for Eurostar so really my advice is probably useless) the French is something you have to want to do in and of itself; it isn't just a course you can go through to up your salary; it takes you up to European level B1 (which is post A-level) and takes a good few months

No of course. I didn't mean I would want to learn a language expecting to get more money.

 

[godfreycomplex]

Ooh interesting I have close friends living in Peterborough so that could go on the pros list. Thanks for the info

No worries
Only 50 mins from St Pancras except at extreme ends of the day as well

 

[Johncleesefan]

It did just hit me after posting the Pancras is kings cross and pretty much as central in London as one can get ha

 

[Class2ldn]

Fantastic... but work for Thameslink get £69,000 (in 2019), free travel to work, International coupons.

Eurostar £67,000, no free travel to work, no International Coupons, training salary until validated (gossip states that will be Q4 2019).

So indeed fill your boots with debt.

63k actually for TL

 

[Bromley boy]

Thameslink - thrumming round and round the Catford/Wimbledon loop for hours on end; DOO; book on and off at silly o'clock with regular nights; under the umbrella of God's Terrible Railway
Eurostar - learn another language (which is a plus; job or no job); different rule books; lunch in Paris; they give you a hotel for dead earlies (contrary to popular belief lodging's about once a year); only driving for less than three hours at once (usually); and guards (and they're staying); primary school children get something really cool for careers day; you can still pay the mortgage
Money isn't everything...

A friend of a friend drives for them - sounds like an excellent gig. Very decent bunce, one out and back trip per shift. They apparently treat their staff well and have benefits such as hotels/taxis in and out if you're working odd hours.

The work is repetitive but multiple rule books, the channel tunnel and 190mph in the longest and most powerful trains in the UK isn't for the faint hearted + French language requirements.

If I had the required experience I'd be a rat up a drainpipe for this.

 

[flash]

French language training is approx. 6 months in the classroom followed by a TCF exam, its not an easy course, several have chucked it in before the finish.

The proposed plan is that recruits would do traction and UK rules / routes spring 2018, followed by depot / ferry turns during the summer, then language Autumn / Winter, followed by ET & SNCF rules, more depot / ferry turns summer 2019, validation Autumn 2019.

Rostered average 35 hour / 4 day week, 'off' days grouped together in the week, so 3 or 4 'off' days, earliest start 05:01, latest finish 23:29 and nights. Longest shift 11hrs, but only 10 per week over 10hrs. Currently working 50% weekends. 8hrs movement from spare on the weekly sheet, 2hrs on the daily sheet. Overtime is paid at the end of the contract year, and only for hours over the contract.

International turns are out & back, (occasional pass one way), occasional ECS on the beginning or end or turn. ECS are DOO.

Only safeguarded staff get residential travel, others get approx. £1500 (max)assistance to work - pro-rated to actual fare paid - no priv seasons. No international coupons unless safeguarded. 3 free trips on E*.

Early starts before 06:30 (M-S), 08:00 (Su) a hotel is available, taxi contribution up to £39.

 

[flash]

63k actually for TL

New recruits have committed Sundays... that's where £69K comes from

 

[Johncleesefan]

Wah 8 hour movements and overtime paid in a lump once a year,
no unlimited travel on euros tar, so there are some cons but still not enough to put me off ☺

 

[Class2ldn]

New recruits have committed Sundays... that's where £69K comes from

Ah I must admit I forgot about Sundays.
I don't do them and still won't be

 

[donpoku]

New recruits have committed Sundays... that's where £69K comes from

Would that still be 35hr/week?

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[ComUtoR]

New recruits have committed Sundays... that's where £69K comes from

Which is why its important to state the correct salary at all times. It gives a misperception of a Drivers wage.

 

[387star]

Not all tl drivers are stuck on the loops lol some depots near 100% mainline

 

[ItchyRsole]

Overtime is paid at the end of the contract year, and only for hours over the contract year. Incorrect - overtime paid at 1.5 x your rate is paid the following month after your OT. I've just banked 24 hours money for 16 hours work.

3 free trips on E*. Incorrect - I get 20 vouchers per year (1 voucher per E*trip) others get more or less depending on length of service, the least being 12 vouchers per year

Early starts before 06:30 (M-S), 08:00 (Su) a hotel is available, taxi contribution up to £39.

or ETP, early turn payment. £30.59 for dead early, £22.47 for starts before 06.30. I do lots of early turns and bank around £350 a month in ETP

Fantastic company to work for. They can't do enough for you that's why they have a very low turnover of staff, people don't leave, and many who do either come back or try and come back.

 

[flash]

or ETP, early turn payment. £30.59 for dead early, £22.47 for starts before 06.30. I do lots of early turns and bank around £350 a month in ETP

Fantastic company to work for. They can't do enough for you that's why they have a very low turnover of staff, people don't leave, and many who do either come back or try and come back.

Are you referring to drivers terms and conditions? RDW until end of October 2017, paid at 1.5 x daily rate, overtime is paid at the end of the contract year also paid at 1.5 x daily rate. In my experience E* have never paid a driver overtime at the end of the contract year.

Extra early payment for starts before 05:00 - drivers currently don't have any.

E* vouchers, 2 per return trip for you and a partner * 3 trips = 12 vouchers. Service gives you a 1st class upgrade on 1 or 2 of those trips - hence 16 or 20 vouchers. How you use them is up to you.

 

[ItchyRsole]

As I said OT paid at x 1.5 is paid every month regardless of whether you're a driver or not. It's company wide. E* wanted it to be over contracted hours but that was rejected and we get it as standard.

Not sure why the need to complicate your vouchers explanation lol.

We get minimum 12 vouchers maximum 24 approx. makes no difference how you use them. I give some of mine away for single journeys. Point being your original post was wrong.

 

[flash]

As I said OT paid at x 1.5 is paid every month regardless of whether you're a driver or not. It's company wide. E* wanted it to be over contracted hours but that was rejected and we get it as standard.

Not sure why the need to complicate your vouchers explanation lol.

We get minimum 12 vouchers maximum 24 approx. makes no difference how you use them. I give some of mine away for single journeys. Point being your original post was wrong.

Good that's clear then, you are not a driver, if you were you would be aware of the drivers implementation of the pay deal, you would be aware of the rest day agreement, you would be aware of the difference between overtime and rest day working and you would be aware which of the 2 is paid every month and which isn't.
Regarding the vouchers you will be aware how these came about? Your personal allocation is of no interest to those applying for a post at E*, their allowance is the relevant point - 3 return trips for themselves and partner (if you want to explain that they can travel alone and therefore have 6 return trips that's fine by me)

Regarding your point about E* being at fantastic place to work, you need to sit in the Traincrew messroom , it will be interesting to hear you spin the sacking of 2 drivers in recent years, the fact that 25% of the drivers are considering other jobs, the dodgy diagramming tactics and some of the rostering...

£350 in early turn payment... you having a laugh! Thats 16 early turns for a driver - the most turns we could be rostered in a (ordinary) paymonth is 19! Your statement is not representative of what a driver could reasonably expect to receive.

 

[Please Explain]

Only safeguarded staff get residential travel, others get approx. £1500 (max)assistance to work - pro-rated to actual fare paid - no priv seasons. No international coupons unless safeguarded. 3 free trips on E*.

Really?

No coupons or FIP card? Is this for all grades or just Drivers?? I heard a few years ago that E* staff get TfL PTAC cards, is this still the case? I'm guessing you will at least get your PRIV card?

 

[flash]

Really?

No coupons or FIP card? Is this for all grades or just Drivers?? I heard a few years ago that E* staff get TfL PTAC cards, is this still the case? I'm guessing you will at least get your PRIV card?

FIP cards only, Priv travel on London Underground (may well be TFL). You get a PRIV card but no boxes. All grades - E* is not a full member of ATOC (or whatever its called today).

 

[MrPIC]

So would you be able to get a priv season in order to travel in to TM or St Pancras? I've applied for the job but not really holding out much hope they'll want me!

 

[Please Explain]

FIP cards only, Priv travel on London Underground (may well be TFL). You get a PRIV card but no boxes. All grades - E* is not a full member of ATOC (or whatever its called today).

I see..

Yeah, that's PTAC - Privilege Transport Authority Card for 75% off tube, Overground and DLR. As far as I know our self's and you guys are the only TOC's who enjoy PTAC. I remember there was panic when First lost FCC, everyone thought they would have to pay full fare to continue taking the tube to work. Thankfully the agreement has been kept in place and extended to all ex-Southern and Gatwick Express colleagues when they were merged into the new franchise in 2015. All that has changed is no more PTAC for dependents now, I'm guessing same applies at E* now too?

That is indeed a real pity about the coupons, I was very surprised to read that.

What about your colleagues over the Channel? Do they get a better deal? Are they actually employed by EIL as well or by NMBS/SNCB / SNCF? And can you shed any light on what happens when the Amsterdam trains start? NS joins the club too??