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Picture on Europhoenix Facebook page suggesting that 37901 will be in service soon after being out of service for a number of years. Believe 37901 will be in a different pool compared with the other Europhoenix/ROG 37 fleet.
 
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The 37s are used because they can go anywhere, 90s could only operate under wires and those that might be available are wrecks, 60s are heavy haul 60mph max and again those available are wrecks requiring specialist heavy rebuilding
 

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60s? 90s?
Someone not been to Toton recently? There are some Class 60 shaped piles of rust, but it's unlikely their present owners would even sell those.

Aside from all the other facts that make a 37 more flexible than a 60, as already mentioned.
 

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I have no idea but why is this loco being brought back when newer locos are available?
I thought you’re a person who doesn’t like seeing rolling stock get scrapped.
 

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I have no idea but why is this loco being brought back when newer locos are available?
37 are good a hauling unit's for scrapp or moving them around the network.

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I have no idea but why is this loco being brought back when newer locos are available?
Guess there was money behind this project.
 

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I have no idea but why is this loco being brought back when newer locos are available?
Is it the fact that the loco is owned by a different company to the "customer" ?
AIUI Europhoenix own 37901 and consider there is work for it.
ROG hire locos off Europhoenix for their work until their own class 93s are built. commissioned and in service.
Presume Europhoenix believe their hire fees from 37901 will "payback"
 

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The 37s are used because they can go anywhere, 90s could only operate under wires and those that might be available are wrecks, 60s are heavy haul 60mph max and again those available are wrecks requiring specialist heavy rebuilding
So much for climate change! 90018 and 040 could be available as they are WQAA and 90030 is apparently in a decent condition. Some scrap moves and emu haulage could be done at least partially with a 90.
I thought you’re a person who doesn’t like seeing rolling stock get scrapped.
I am, but to be honest I don’t see why 60 year old locos are still going. Mind you, a 37 would be good in preservation!
 

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So much for climate change! 90018 and 040 could be available as they are WQAA and 90030 is apparently in a decent condition. Some scrap moves and emu haulage could be done at least partially with a 90.

I am, but to be honest I don’t see why 60 year old locos are still going. Mind you, a 37 would be good in preservation!

First point: loco changes en-route are operationally very inconvenient, and scrap moves are at the extreme end of marginal railway activity, there's no fat available when bidding for this work.

As for your second point, I can't wait for a 37 to be preserved. :rolleyes:
 

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First point: loco changes en-route are operationally very inconvenient, and scrap moves are at the extreme end of marginal railway activity, there's no fat available when bidding for this work.

As for your second point, I can't wait for a 37 to be preserved. :rolleyes:
I meant this particular 37. As the Belmont-Newport moves stop for staffing in London anyway, they could change locos at Wembley...

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37 are good a hauling unit's for scrapp or moving them around the network.


Guess there was money behind this project.
I suppose so, but don't ROG have 30 shiny new 93s coming in soon-they won't need 37s!
 
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I meant this particular 37. As the Belmont-Newport moves stop for staffing in London anyway, they could change locos at Wembley...

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I suppose so, but don't ROG have 30 shiny new 93s coming in soon-they won't need 37s!
They do yes. Ten I believe and another 10 if they want to.
 

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I'd be wary of using the word 'soon' when talking about new ......... ;)
I couldn’t agree more

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I thought they had ordered 30 but the first batch was 10? Oh well, me wrong as always. Back on topic, how long has 37901 been stored for?
 

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From pictures on flickr, looks like it worked in preservation until 2016 and was repainted in Europheonix livery in 2018, taken up to Leicester in October 2018.
 

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I couldn’t agree more

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I thought they had ordered 30 but the first batch was 10? Oh well, me wrong as always. Back on topic, how long has 37901 been stored for?
I think you could be right.
 

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Have you the rtt links for that please?

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Where is it going?
It's Leicester-Derby-Sheffield-Barrow Hill-Derby-Leicester. The schedule hasn't uploaded yet but it should appear overnight if you check Leicester L.I.P in the morning. Headcode is 0R56.
 

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It's Leicester-Derby-Sheffield-Barrow Hill-Derby-Leicester. The schedule hasn't uploaded yet but it should appear overnight if you check Leicester L.I.P in the morning. Headcode is 0R56.
That's brilliant. Thank you very much.

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Times for 37901 today.
 
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Wonder if 37901 might be the loco europhoenix are sending to the dean forest railway diesel gala on 17/18th September?
 

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All being well 37901 will be out again tomorrow on a loaded test run. It will have 37608+800 and every available barrier wagon!
It might be a little late but the working was turned back at Chesterfield due to issues with 901s field diverts, not sure when it will return.
 

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It might be a little late but the working was turned back at Chesterfield due to issues with 901s field diverts, not sure when it will return.
Tomorrow (Thursday) on the Wolverton-Crewe South Yard TPE drag.
 

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Thread reopened to allow @ExRes to provide an update.

Thanks @Mag_seven

Reported on WNXX today that 37901 is to start a hire period at Peak Forest Cemex Sidings, I'm not up with Europhoenix/ROG workings so I'm unsure how much work 901 has done recently

There are currently schedules for todays 0904 0Z20 Peak Forest Cemex Sidings to Barrow Hil LIP (presumably 20007 & 20205), tomorrows 1216 0Z37 Leicester LIP to Peak Forest Cemex Sidings and Fridays 1523 0Z20 Barrow Hill LIP to Peak Forest Cemex Sidings, so it may well be a short hire for 901
 

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Thanks @Mag_seven

Reported on WNXX today that 37901 is to start a hire period at Peak Forest Cemex Sidings, I'm not up with Europhoenix/ROG workings so I'm unsure how much work 901 has done recently

There are currently schedules for todays 0904 0Z20 Peak Forest Cemex Sidings to Barrow Hil LIP (presumably 20007 & 20205), tomorrows 1216 0Z37 Leicester LIP to Peak Forest Cemex Sidings and Fridays 1523 0Z20 Barrow Hill LIP to Peak Forest Cemex Sidings, so it may well be a short hire for 901
I've not heard of 37901 doing anything for ROG recently... last I heard it was at Leicester but may be wrong.
 

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I've not heard of 37901 doing anything for ROG recently... last I heard it was at Leicester but may be wrong.
Not up to date on it since 37901 did a test run with a ROG 37 - maybe Leicester-Barrow Hill and back, but I thought it ended up at Barrow Hill for further fettling.
However, IIRC the Europhoenix 37s used by ROG are maintained at Derby these days, so maybe 37901 is on the RTC
 
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