Edinburgh Gateway (Update 11/12: Now open)

[JamboCommuter]

Don't tram tickets integrate with Lothian buses?

There are tickets which can be used on both trams and buses, but the new station does not seem to have any bus services.

That seems a lost opportunity to me for travellers for example from Fife wanting to go to areas of West Edinburgh not served by the tram line.

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[najaB]

There are tickets which can be used on both trams and buses, but the new station does not seem to have any bus services.

That seems a lost opportunity to me for travellers for example from Fife wanting to go to areas of West Edinburgh not served by the tram line.

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Hop on the tram to South Gyle. I think there's room for buses, they probably just haven't updated the routes yet.

 

[oldman]

I don't think it is likely any buses will serve the station. At present a number terminate at the Gyle Shopping Centre mostly linking to places served by buses from Haymarket and extending them round the roundabout to the station could add several minutes each way.

 

[jadmor]

Hop on the tram to South Gyle. I think there's room for buses, they probably just haven't updated the routes yet.

I will have to try this next time I visit gyle, but I am confident that it would be quicker to walk through the new pedestrian underpass which leads directly to the shopping centre.

 

[Class 170101]

A new article on the station here:

https://www.railengineer.uk/2017/01/05/edinburghs-new-gateway/

265m platforms? Is that actually long enough for IEP given that Durham is apparently being extended for that reason

Durham Platform Extension Rail Technology Magazine

 

[JamboCommuter]

I will have to try this next time I visit gyle, but I am confident that it would be quicker to walk through the new pedestrian underpass which leads directly to the shopping centre.

The South Gyle tram stop is around 200 yards from the bus stops at the shopping centre. It would indeed be quicker to use the new walkway from the rail station to the bus stops.

It's just a pity either new or existing bus services do not seem to be planned to actually stop at Edinburgh Gateway. That to me would be proper transport integration.

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[mcmad]

Is there (public) road access into Gateway? I thought it was an interchange to the trams and nothing else?

 

[takno]

Is there (public) road access into Gateway? I thought it was an interchange to the trams and nothing else?

There's a walking route alongside the tram route that goes under the main road, and is designed to be actively used for interchange and access to the Gyle generally. Not sure if there's a road, but even if there is it would be a fair drive to get there from the Gyle/Edinburgh Park

 

[Gathursty]

Is there (public) road access into Gateway? I thought it was an interchange to the trams and nothing else?

There is a road from the roundabout at the end of the A720 City of Edinburgh Bypass to the station which is a looping road for drop-off/pick-up only.

 

[Tracked]

A new article on the station here:

https://www.railengineer.uk/2017/01/05/edinburghs-new-gateway/

Its 303 square metre concourse is covered by a lightweight ethylene tetrafluoroethylene (ETFE) roof system, that was also used at Haymarket. ETFE is a high transparency, recyclable material with a 30-year life. It belongs to the same fluoropolymer family as PTFE – or Teflon as it is more commonly known.

Thinking back to that thread about leaky new stations recently, isn't this what Manchester Victoria's new roof was made with?

 

[najaB]

Thinking back to that thread about leaky new stations recently, isn't this what Manchester Victoria's new roof was made with?

I suspect that the problems with leaky roofs are less to do with materials and more to do with design and workmanship.

 

[Class 170101]

Thinking back to that thread about leaky new stations recently, isn't this what Manchester Victoria's new roof was made with?

I thought that station was were panels fell out of the roof onto the concourse below?

Newport has (had hopefully) leaks?

 

[takno]

I thought that station was were panels fell out of the roof onto the concourse below?

Newport has (had hopefully) leaks?

I could be completely wrong, but my understanding of the Manchester Victoria roof is that it's basically made of bubble-wrap, with thick sheets of plastic enclosing air bubbles. That makes it lightweight, but also means that it can hold its structure much better without such substantial framework. I believe the failure was some of the bubbles bursting, the bottom halves filling with water and breaking, and the water falling on the station below. I don't think panels themselves fell, and if they did they would probably actually cause less injury than the water.

The Edinburgh Gateway roof could well be made of the same material, but with it made into conventional rigid panels, which would work more like glass panels except that they would be lighter.