ECML Doncaster to Wakefield closed

[800001]

Am surprised not to of seen a thread regarding this, but due to a damaged Northern power grid pole the line between Doncaster and Wakefield has been closed to all traffic since yesterday afternoon, and the current eta for opening again is 18:00, was previously eta midday today.

The reason is the power grid lines run over the railway line and there is a danger of collapse.

Looking at the photos on Twitter as posted by David Horne, it looks like a piece of farm equipment had most likely hit the post.

LNER are running 1 bimode service per hour diverting via Hambleton or if not possible diverting to York, and the other service per hour is cancelled.

Northern’s Leeds to Doncaster looks to be running Wakefield.

Below is a tweet from David Horne

https://x.com/davidhorne/status/1843157245996962226?s=46&t=JLp3J2Up_Gl_m9cQz-au6w

Apologies for disruption if you are planning to travel on our @LNER Leeds ↔️ London King’s Cross services this morning. Due to damage to a Northern Power Grid pole carrying electricity cables which cross over the railway near #Adwick, the line between Wakefield Westgate and Doncaster is closed. To keep you moving, we are diverting as many of our Leeds services as we can but unfortunately 10 Leeds-London services each way will be cancelled this morning.

@Northpowergrid are on site making repairs and we’re hoping that the Leeds-Doncaster line will re-open later today so we can get services back to their normal route.

Our Edinburgh-London services via York are not affected by this incident.

More info: LNER.co.uk/disruption and also at @nationalrailenq

 

[FozzQuaker]

I was on an LNER service up to Leeds yesterday when this happened, the train was diverted, I think towards Selby and went through Garforth into Leeds

 

[JRT]

I was on an LNER service up to Leeds yesterday when this happened, the train was diverted, I think towards Selby and went through Garforth into Leeds

Yes, that's the Hambleton route (avoids Wakefield).

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Due to the electricity being switched off for safety reasons between Wakefield Westgate and Doncaster, the line is blocked.

Train services running through these stations may be cancelled, delayed, or diverted.

Grand Central will divert via Pontefract Monkhill.

LNER will run a very limited, diverted service via the Hambleton route (not calling at Wakefield).

NORTHERN will run between Leeds and Wakefield Westgate only (bus connection to Doncaster).

 

[Whistler40145]

Is it faster for LNER to divert via Hambleton than Knottingley and Woodlesford?

 

[Spartacus]

Is it faster for LNER to divert via Hambleton than Knottingley and Woodlesford?

It will be, by quite a bit if I remember right, and there'll be more crews with route knowledge too.

 

[Whistler40145]

It will be, by quite a bit if I remember right, and there'll be more crews with route knowledge too.

Cheers

 

[30907]

Due to the electricity being switched off for safety reasons between Wakefield Westgate and Doncaster, the line is blocked.

I was amused by the BBC's headline:
BBC News - Damaged telegraph pole leads to rail disruption https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy94ywdyjwno

 

[AndyPJG]

I was amused by the BBC's headline:
BBC News - Damaged telegraph pole leads to rail disruption https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy94ywdyjwno

Corrected link

edit: and quote:-

Damaged telegraph pole leads to rail disruption
A damaged telegraph pole to the right of the picture shows the wires it carries coming close to the overhead wires above a railway line through the countryside
Image source,LNER
Image caption,
Damage to a lineside telegraph pole (right of picture) has caused disruption to rail services

Rail passengers are being warned of disruption to services through parts of Yorkshire due to a power outage.
National Rail said all lines between Doncaster and Wakefield had been closed following damage to a telegraph pole in the Adwick area, leaving it "dangerously close to the overhead electric wires".
A spokesperson said Northern Powergrid staff were on site and working to resolve the problem "as soon as possible", but warned of possible delays and cancellations lasting until the end of the day.
Passengers travelling on Grand Central, LNER and Northern services in the area are advised to check before they travel, external.
Posting on X, external, the operator's managing director David Horne apologised to customers for the disruption and said he hoped the line would reopen later on Monday.
Northern said rail replacement services could add an additional 45 minutes to travel times for customers.
Grand Central has advised passengers that its services would continue, however, they were diverting via Pontefract Monkhill, which may add an additional 15 minutes to journey times.

 

[Twingo37175]

Line now reopened, I believe around 18.00 and services now going through

 

[FozzQuaker]

So what is taken into account in a situation like that...

One minute I was thinking we would have to leave the train at Donny to then being told we were diverting...

Is things like availability on diversion lines taken into account, whether he drivers knowledge of the route is up to date and stuff like that...

I'll give LNER credit where its due, they seemed to sort it out pretty quickly and we were only about 10 minutes late getting into Leeds...

The only thing I'll take away from it, I'll never travel on Sunday again, standing room only all the from the Cross

 

[800001]

Sunday wouldn’t have helped with the engineering work resulting in a massively reduced service for LNER from London, rather than the usual 5 trains per hour.

Overnight LNER will of pre-cancelled multiple service to/from Leeds in conjunction with NWR and the agreed contingency plan.

They will then, where possible of allocated a bi-mode unit to the one per hour Service to divert to Leeds via Hambleton junction.
If the crew did not sign the diversion, then the service would divert to York.

 

[FozzQuaker]

Sunday wouldn’t have helped with the engineering work resulting in a massively reduced service for LNER from London, rather than the usual 5 trains per hour.

Overnight LNER will of pre-cancelled multiple service to/from Leeds in conjunction with NWR and the agreed contingency plan.

They will then, where possible of allocated a bi-mode unit to the one per hour Service to divert to Leeds via Hambleton junction.
If the crew did not sign the diversion, then the service would divert to York.

I guess I was on a bi-mode unit

Would've been better if they diverted to York...for me anyway, as thats where I ended up having to change again anyway to get up to Newcastle

 

[43055]

I guess I was on a bi-mode unit

Would've been better if they diverted to York...for me anyway, as thats where I ended up having to change again anyway to get up to Newcastle

All of LNER services to London yesterday would have been bi-mode for the planned diversion via Lincoln.

 

[growse]

It will be, by quite a bit if I remember right, and there'll be more crews with route knowledge too.

is that also true of going via Whitwood Jn / Kirkgate? Was annoying for me that they skipped Westgate, but assume there's a very good reason why (route knowledge, clearence, paths etc.)

 

[Spartacus]

is that also true of going via Whitwood Jn / Kirkgate? Was annoying for me that they skipped Westgate, but assume there's a very good reason why (route knowledge, clearence, paths etc.)

Would have been yes, and availability paths, especially quick ones that wouldn't leave it stuck behind a stopper, would be just one more reason.

 

[Crossover]

Do LNER sign the route from Westgate to Kirkgate to take the line towards Knottingley? I feel like it has been done in passenger service before (but it may have been XC, my memory is hazy) but I am not aware of any route rentention specials that do it, so maybe it isn't signed? I know there is route knowledge via Normanton and the junction there that goes towards Hare Park (but equally not sure if Crofton West to Shaftholme is on the LNER (or XC) route card?

Coming out at Hare Park wouldn't have been useful on this occasion I don't think, because of where the block was

 

[The North Briton]

Do LNER sign the route from Westgate to Kirkgate to take the line towards Knottingley? I feel like it has been done in passenger service before (but it may have been XC, my memory is hazy) but I am not aware of any route rentention specials that do it, so maybe it isn't signed? I know there is route knowledge via Normanton and the junction there that goes towards Hare Park (but equally not sure if Crofton West to Shaftholme is on the LNER (or XC) route card?

Coming out at Hare Park wouldn't have been useful on this occasion I don't think, because of where the block was

AFAIK, LNER don’t sign the curve between Westgate and Kirkgate. 1D36 23.33 Kgx-Lds is (was?) normally routed via Askern and Methley for route retention purposes, although it serms to have run via Hare Pk and Methley since Oct 1st. Either route would incur a significant time penalty over Hambleton, but would have the advantage if not reversing the unit.

 

[800001]

Do LNER sign the route from Westgate to Kirkgate to take the line towards Knottingley? I feel like it has been done in passenger service before (but it may have been XC, my memory is hazy) but I am not aware of any route rentention specials that do it, so maybe it isn't signed? I know there is route knowledge via Normanton and the junction there that goes towards Hare Park (but equally not sure if Crofton West to Shaftholme is on the LNER (or XC) route card?

Coming out at Hare Park wouldn't have been useful on this occasion I don't think, because of where the block was

Certain crews do sign Kirkgate to Westgate.

 

[Donny Dave]

Coming out at Hare Park wouldn't have been useful on this occasion I don't think, because of where the block was

Thought the block was between Doncaster and South Kirkby junction?

 

[Iskra]

Slightly late reporting this, but my TP at 0559 from Meadowhall to Liverpool yesterday was cancelled due to this issue. Presumably the set was either unable to reach or depart Crofton depot to get to Doncaster station to start the service. Luckily, the next TP to Liverpool ran and was 6 carriages, so I got there an hour late, but I had allowed for such a delay anyway.

 

[Class 170101]

Thought the block was between Doncaster and South Kirkby junction?

Yes.

I'm surprised LNER didn't actually run Doncaster, Leeds (via Hambleton) and then onto Wakefield Westgate and terminate there from the north.

 

[800001]

Yes.

I'm surprised LNER didn't actually run Doncaster, Leeds (via Hambleton) and then onto Wakefield Westgate and terminate there from the north.

You are then creating issues with the train crew whi work these services, breaks, turning the sets back etc

 

[Class 170101]

You are then creating issues with the train crew whi work these services, breaks, turning the sets back etc

They have done this before (albeit some time ag0)

 

[800001]

They have done this before (albeit some time ag0)

Really? When?
I certainly can’t recall it in the last 4 years..

 

[Class 170101]

Really? When?
I certainly can’t recall it in the last 4 years..

Admittedly a while ago (well before Azumas arrived) but definitely done, I was on it.