As usual with Loganair, Avios make a way better deal in most cases
I've never actually checked that before - it's a shocking difference. That's my problem with Loganair though - they include bags and biscuits I don't want in the headline price, and then hide all the value in loyalty schemes and seasonal sales. I mostly fly Loganair to help out my ailing parents. I'm not flying to Exeter in a grim little tin can as a special treat, and from experience I don't think many other people on the flight are either. I just want to buy a ticket for a transport service at a reasonable price - I can't be bothered with all the coupon-clipping nonsense.
If it was being bought out by someone else sure. But it’s US Private Equity, it is going to be asset stripped, lease buyback scheme… over a few years, like the myriad of US PE acquisitions in recent years
It is a legacy carrier where their cost base must be absolutely astronomical working in the islands, small airports, low loadings due to small airports… You can’t change that without Loganair basically becoming a full a LCC, which with the massive cost base won’t work ever
Don't forget Loganair are subsidised by the Scottish Government on a lot of their Highlands and Island routes.
If Flybe hadn't been so cheap, they may still be around to tell the tale.
It was good while it lasted along with BMI Baby and Easyjet in its early days.
I'm not sure the fares were the issue so much as the attempt to run a lot of routes which were never going to make sense. Whilst they went bust before COVID and would clearly never have made it through COVID, I do wonder how they'd do now, with the large rise in domestic holidays and leisure travel, and with XC (at least to me) seeming to provide much weaker competition.
Judging by Loganair's announcements today, not very well.
The whole point is that Loganair are running some weird unaffordable nothing service, completely at odds with what FlyBr were doing on their successful routes. If Loganair are struggling then it's not entirely a surprise
Even if Loganair replicated FlyBe’s exact route/fare structure tomorrow they wouldn’t be as successful. The market isn’t there.
Loganair are closing the Southampton base from October and Manchester - Exeter goes later this month as well.
Loganair flew Cardiff - Edinburgh at some point in the not too distant past. I don't think it lasted long. As the poster underneath you says, easyJet's services from Glasgow, Edinburgh, Inverness and Newcastle probably mop up most of it. Bristol airport is inconvenient, but so is Cardiff airport.
Not sure what made me think of it, but Ryanair also fly Edinburgh - Bournemouth.
Avios only cover the fare element: they don’t cover the airport fees, APD, fuel surcharges or the GreenSkies surcharge.
Flybe were awful. They rinsed you both ways: the fares weren’t actually particularly cheap yet you still got to pay top whack to take any sort of luggage with you (their cabin bag sizes were small, even compared to what Ryanair now gives you).
I don’t think the new American owners will be quite so aggressive on the asset stripping. They seem to be a fund which takes a longer-term view and are buying easyJet simply because they think it is massively undervalued.
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Must not have been able to make it work competing alongside Jet2.
That Facebook group is full of wishful thinkers and is run by a bloke who has zero understanding of airports/airlines and the economics of commercial aviation.
Only about a dozen flights per week.
It was always a bit of a nothing service out of LBA, a small number of destinations on varying days of the week. I'm not surprised that they've pulled out, I'd say Jet2 and TUI (and Ryanair) have the bucket-and-spade market sewn up out of LBA.
