Yeah agreed with that for the majority, the one I'm annoyed with is the 12.44 Northgate to Lincoln being no more, as it gave an additional option to get in for football on a Saturday, with choice of 12.09, 12.44 and 13.09. To be replaced with 12.25 and 13.23 only.
Because the ECML has been recast for the December 2025 change, which is what the EMR Regional changes are shaped around
Generally it seems to be more or less fine. The odd issue with failed units or whatever but it does seem to be working nicely.
You can also get seats between Nottingham and Lincoln on 2 car trains.Hopefully one day we will see Cleethorpes go hourly. But Lincolnshire as a whole does seem to generally well
The risk will be is if a unit runs late, with it coming from further away. It might see Matlock trains terminated at Nottingham or Derby. Late up the Matlock line could make a service behind delayed. Once a service becomes unreliable, people walk away.
I know some of the gripes in the Derby area were from people travelling from London, connecting on to the Matlock train. Often it would.leace just as the train from London arrived, then be looped at Breadsall to be overtaken by the train from London....If the Matlock train doesn't work for its users, then many will just drive
If you go all the way back to the first page you will see that improving the robustness of connection from London into the Matlock was one of the stated aims of this new timetable.
They also seem to have made the timing between stations, especially on the Matlock branch more manageable so its actually possible to be on time. Before most trains were 1/2 minutes late unless you had a good crew onboard that kept it to time.
There is also a 19 minute turnaround time at Matlock compared to 5 minutes in the old timetable.
If I recall, the Derby train at Crewe, also had a longer turnaround.
Incompetent missing of connectionsat Derby is not only an issue from Lonon.
Been on a train,a few times at Derby. The guard announced we were waiting for a platform. Open Train Times showed an empty station.
There are now more 170 diagrams on the Liverpool to Norwich and are put more favourably on there.
Does this mean the strengthening unit at Nottingham always turns out to be the same class as what comes in from Norwich?
Can you run 170s and 158s coupled together in passenger service? I suppose I vaguely thought you could but I'm not sure I've actually seen it on the Norwich-Liverpool route (or any other route come to that).
The two have different passenger info/call for aid systems and other niggling compatibility issues so they are only allowed to work together either empty coaching stock or if really necessary you can move a locked out unit with the other type as part of a passenger formation.
So that creates a risk that if the diagrams get messed up it won't be possible to strengthen a 170 with a 158 at Nottingham or vice versa.
The risk has been there for ages and thus far hasn't really posed much of an issue - short forms have happened but they've been quite unusual and more often 5 car 170 vice 6 rather than 2 vice 5 or anything silly like that.
Glad to hear this. A rather rare recent example of a genuine significant improvement to services.
That’s great to hear and as regular user I am delighted when a 5 car 170 turns up on Nottingham - Liverpool they certainly help with dwell times at Piccadilly and Oxford Road.
I have to give credit to EMR they really do seem to run Liverpool - Norwich really well. Sets swaps at Nottingham seem to be well managed on the occasions they are needed with a 4 car set waiting in platform and the ex-Norwich 2 car (of the opposite stock) coming in behind or on an adjacent platform.
