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East Kilbride/Barrhead electrification updates
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Southsider
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Are the wires live yet?
No. They were meant to be live at the end of August, but that got postponed. Not seen any new notices at work advising of a "live" date.
davidoFI
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Sunday 12th October according to WON 26
TrainViation
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Not sure if this is new or old news, but just in case it's new, Class 380s are to run on the East Kilbride line from December.
hexagon789
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It's essentially the only electric train that can run to EK, though I understand 385s will be route cleared in due course but not used, at least initially.
TrainViation
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From the limited research I had done before this, I figured the Class 320s or something similar could run it. But I’ve been proven wrong. And it makes sense it’s the 380 since they already run to Busby Jn on the Barrhead line.
hexagon789
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It'll probably be enabled by swapping 380s for 320s (and/or 318s) somewhere, as there are not enough 380s to work additional diagrams.
Is the plan to run all services using 380s or a mix of electric and diesel?
hexagon789
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The latter, a mixture.
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Why can’t 318/320 do it?
hexagon789
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They are DOO only, EK isn't set up for DOO.
EK and Barrhead routes meet all the requirements for DOO. The only units that ScotRail have that have DOO cctv equipment that could operate it as DOO are the 334, 380 and 385.
However, it is expected that it will be operated conventionally with a conductor being in control of the doors as per the Barrhead route.
Do the Class 318 still not retain the option of conductor operating doors from their days on North Berwick services? Or was this removed during overhaul?
Not sure on the 318, as I don't sign it.
All drivers that sign the EK route, apart from Dumfries who lose it in December, sign class 380 so it is the most cost effective traction option for ScotRail to use that meets the requirements for the route. Essentially there is no training needed and it can be operated by 380s straight away.
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Presumably the platforms can take 2x3 car 380s but not 2x4 car.
d9009alycidon
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RTT already showing 380/156 mix
Busman84
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I see some diagrams come off or go onto Carlisle workings. But is Dumfries to lose the EK workings? This could be updated in due course. Looks like a EMU every 90 mins during the day for EK line
Dumfries drivers lose EK in December. Dumfries conductors retain it as they already work 380s on the Barrhead services.
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A maintenance train of some sort passed Giffnock about an hour ago heading towards East Kilbride. A cab, a hopper, some machinery and another cab. Guessing it’s track related.
The autumn rail head treatment train (sandite) services have started. What you've seen will have probably been an MPV which carries out high pressure water jetting to clean the railhead and lay traction adhesion gel at certain points.
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Makes sense, thanks
E400Lover101
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Timings for EMU tests are out on Realtime Trains.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Realtime Trains | Departures from East Kilbride all day on 14/10/2025
Train information at East Kilbride all day on 14/10/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Frankton Junct
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The original project scope included platform extensions for 8 carriages, but this enhancement was removed from the scope.
TrainViation
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Was two platforms also included at EK station but then removed also?
Busman84
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The plan was for 2 platforms. This was still the case when they scrapped the double track. Then later the double platfrom at EK was scrappped.
s55823ewj
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So did none of the platforms get extended at all in the end?
The Clarkston end of the down platform at Gifnock was extended. This was not to allow longer trains, but because they moved the Stop car marker board back from the end of the platform for better signal sighting.
East Kilbride was also extended as part of the new station build, but still only able to hold 6 x 23m coaches.
No other platforms were extended or indeed had any major work done to them.
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