East Coast "Smokescreen"

[Butts]

Which was a 7 year old estimate.

Well with the reported health improvements trumpeted as a result of the ban in public places you are correct - the figure should be going down

 

[sparks2000]

If so, then that is consistent with my feeling that public smoking is far less offensive when people do not throw their butts on the ground.

Littering is a separate offence.

 

[Butts]

There are only four stations in Scotland not operated by ScotRail - Glasgow Central and Edinburgh (NR), Prestwick Airport (managed by the airport) and Dunbar (EC). I would assume that smoking is prohibited on Dunbar in the same way it is at GLC and EDB. I am unsure what the position is at PRA.

I can see a trip to Dunbar coming on , or a least a stopover on one of my North of England trips.

I must check out Glasgow Queen Street , I've got a feeling Aberdeen may be part of the "ban club" from memory - even on open platforms.
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It says 'most' stations not 'all'.
This had been brought up a number of times, but Merseyrail did not ban smoking on platforms either.

Why did Mersey Rail decide not to follow the others ?

 

[Stats]

It says 'most' stations not 'all'.
This had been brought up a number of times, but Merseyrail did not ban smoking on platforms either.

Yes, it says most stations but at those stations it suggests a ban was in place in uncovered areas. Scotrail's policy, as stated on their website, now seems to be at every ScotRail station only in covered areas as required by the legislation which suggests at most stations where uncovered areas exist the policy has changed.

 

[bnm]

I can remember when you could smoke on the Underground itself never mind the stations - that went west after Kings Cross Fire.

Smoking was already banned on Underground trains (1984) and stations that were wholly or partly underground (1985) before the Kings Cross fire in 1987.

Following the fire the ban was extended to the whole network.

 

[bnm]

Let's not forget it possibly remains legal to smoke on stations in England and Wales if you are not in an enclosed or substantially enclosed building (Health Act 2006) or are on a part of the railway 'on or near which there is a notice indicating that smoking is not allowed.' (Railway Byelaw 3)

So, at the end of a platform having not passed a 'No Smoking' sign or in the vicinity of such a sign? I'd argue that you'd not be breaking any law if you lit up.

Is Byelaw 3 sufficiently applied if the 'notice' is by the public address system? You often hear recorded announcements that smoking is not permitted on any UK railway station.

My local station hasn't got a 'No Smoking' sign on the path leading to the one platform and there are no signs on the platform itself. The shelter would be covered by the Health Act 2006 as it is substantially enclosed but the rest of the platform is open to the elements.

Isn't it worse to have smokers congregating near the main entrance to a station rather than let them sate their habit on the station, say toward the end of platforms. It seems perverse to me that at Bristol Temple Meads, for example, I can smoke outside the main entrance under a canopy where hundreds of non-smokers pass me by, but I am not permitted to smoke at the unsheltered platform ends away from the public.