Driver's Number 1 Key

[Crossforth]

Hey guys,

Anyone able to shed some light on what this key is used for?

Cheers

 

[313103]

I have not heard of such a key. There is a drivers master key if that is what your talking about. This key is what is needed to make live the power controller. All drivers are issued with this key.

 

[Crossforth]

Defiantly a number one key. We use them for some of the lineside phones but drivers use them for other things as well... I just don't know what for

 

[robby p]

We use a 21 key to open cupboards within the train, the internal cab door and for door control of the train, we also use it on some SPTs that have locks on them that generally I've found on platforms.

 

[PaxVobiscum]

(Cue inevitable question about what a "number 2" key opens).

 

[Crossforth]

Maybe our number 1 key is the same as a driver 21 key.

Don't worry Pax, I won't be the one asking that

 

[LCC106]

Yep, the 21 key is also known as a BR1 key so I believe we are talking about one and the same... Used for lineside phones in locked cases as well as entry to some cabs.

 

[O L Leigh]

Thanks guys. Oh well. I shall be keeping the manual uncoupling bar close to hand.

O L Leigh

 

[gimmea50anyday]

BR1, Number 1, 21. Different names for the same key. They fit the doors of an '08!

 

[TDK]

Thanks guys. Oh well. I shall be keeping the manual uncoupling bar close to hand.

O L Leigh

Me too and the brake stick

 

[ANorthernGuard]

We get issued with 2 keys

A Carriage "T" Key

and a Number 1 Key

T key for most panels, DKS and none public doors

Number 1 key for SPT's and some internal passenger doors

 

[Crossforth]

Cheers for all the info guys. It's certainly cleared that one for me

 

[AlexS]

It's a bog standard key for bog standard things, it's not a security key by any means. I don't know why the railways still use it. The only benefit, I suppose, is because it's so fragile, counterfeit copies are usually crap and break if you try and use them. Not so good in respect of buggering up the lock though. Originally it was for guards, and used to lock the interconnecting doors at the end of carriages. It's use was expanded to things like SPTs and so on.

Much like the standard t key, it's not really much use for anything other than keeping stuff closed and acting as a deterrent. Millions of the things have been cut over the years and they are as common as muck. If the railway really wanted to keep things that are locked with T keys and BR1 keys secure, it'd use a decent security key. Which is why you don't find things like S&T grand masters and CDL keys floating about but you do find plenty of BR1s.

It don't believe it's really used within post privatisation era rolling stock.

There's also a driver's FG1 key which is used to activate the desk on 1st gen DMUs - largely if not totally obsolete on the national network now (I don't know whether the remaining bubble cars use them or have had them modified).

They're not exactly classified gen.