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Driver Fault Finding Tasks

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SpacePhoenix

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In another thread it's mentioned that drivers aren't allowed to remove shoe fuses (presumably they'd be circuit breakers in modern stock)

In this video:

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Are there many fault finding tasks in that video that now a driver isn't allowed to do, so would have to get the fitters to attend? Also does the tasks now not allowed to be done by drivers vary from TOC to TOC?
 
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On EMT, we're pretty much expected to carry out the same fault finding and rectificationas previously, although nowadays not without speaking to, and getting permission from Maintenance Control to do so.
 

Johncleesefan

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Driver fault finding certainly seems to be a lot less hands on nowadays. I was trained on basic procedures ie different fault lights, traction training and location of major train parts/cocks hehe, locating and rectifying air leaks, how to keep your train moving to get out of the sticks but fleet need to give authority on just about everything. I heard there are planning on doing away with it all together and fleet will tell you what needs to be done, just a malicious rumor I hope
 

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1960's fault finding - give it a clout with a hammer!
2010's fault finding - look on TMS....

2020 faultfinding - new startup Spacephoenix Rail require drivers to be able to rewire the whole unit (but only when not doing major conversions)... :D
 

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Driver fault finding certainly seems to be a lot less hands on nowadays. I was trained on basic procedures ie different fault lights, traction training and location of major train parts/cocks hehe, locating and rectifying air leaks, how to keep your train moving to get out of the sticks but fleet need to give authority on just about everything. I heard there are planning on doing away with it all together and fleet will tell you what needs to be done, just a malicious rumor I hope

This is definitely the way it's going.

My traction included fault finding and rectification but only for a limited range of defects. The most "hands on" defects we would have to deal with ourselves would be dragging brake isolations and airbursts, but these happen once in a blue moon. As a general rule we don't touch anything below sole-bar level other than isolation cocks. We certainly wouldn't replace shoe fuses.

Our more modern stock has a TMS system which will tell you immediately what is wrong. The older type has fault indication lights in the cab which require you to go back and look in fault cupboards to locate the defect. Remote monitoring means it's quicker to call maintenance who will interrogate the unit and tell you immediately what the fault is and where to go to rectify it.

Quite a few of the older drivers have been surprised at how little "hands on" traction training new drivers pass out with.
 
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