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MatthewB75

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With 30 years service behind me across retail, dispatching and then shunting, and talk of the industry going full circle to a nationalised railway, I have been thinking about my pension more lately. Does anybody know if its possible to take my pension / lump sum at 55 but continue working? Would I need my employers permission? I suspect income TAX would be a pitful to be wary of in any such event. Thank you for any pointers.
 
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You can draw a personal pension or one from previous employer from 55 (will be 57 from 2026), even if still working.

But current employer won't pay both salary and pension simultaneously, you need to stop work and retire to get it.

What happens with most pensions is if you draw early (or late) the amount you get each month is adjusted, will be something like 97% per month if year early, 93% per month if 2 years early (not linear as it is ratio of expected payout) etc

Tax wise, can always have upto 25% as tax free cash lumpsum. Any other income will be taxed (at 20, 40 or 45% depending on other income).

There are rules about putting more money into pensions when you start drawing it (to stop you recycling part of tax free lumpsum and getting tax credit on new contributions). From memory limit is £4000 per year, so if you carry on working and pension contributions continue (from employer and/or employee) then must not exceed this (hefty penalty tax rates if you do). If your pension is salary related then need to be very wary of this, as bit of inflation can mean employer pays in quite a bit to cover next 20-25 years payout at higher rate. (roughly a £10 per year increase will require about £250 added to pension pot), so pension increase of anything over about £130 per year might exceed this recycling limit.
 
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Thank you SO much for the response. A lot to consider. Circumstances for me have changed over the past year where I am enjoying my work a lot more (than I have in years frankly) and although part of me has wanted to retire early for a while, part of me now thinks about staying on. Still have a few years left to ponder and a lot can change in that time, but I feel the earlier I prepare the better I will be.
 

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Take professional financial advice. Too big an issue to guess at. No good running out of money in 20 years or so. I can keep working, paying pension and take my PPF pension compensation if I wish (non-railway)
 

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Agree Stew. The plan was always to see a FC prior to taking (I think RPS mandate it) but just trying to get the ducks straight in my head.
 

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But current employer won't pay both salary and pension simultaneously, you need to stop work and retire to get it
This is wrong. You can take your railway pension and continue working for the same employer from 55. It's only if you are aged 50-55 that you have to stop working for your employer.
 

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This is wrong. You can take your railway pension and continue working for the same employer from 55. It's only if you are aged 50-55 that you have to stop working for your employer.
I was being more cautious, most UK employers schemes don't permit it, and Op didn't specify who they worked for.

As for retiring before 55 (or 57 from 2026), unless it is on HMRC list of specific jobs (officially on a list called Prescribed Occupations) or you had a right from before 2006 (when rules were changed), so effectively been with current employer more than 18 years) then won't be eligible to get the tax free part before that age.
 

rhys37429

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There's a railway pension group on Facebook;


UK railways pensions members forum.
 

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If you have any type of railway pension I would suggest joining the following Facebook group:

UK Railways Pensions Members Forum

There are a group of real railways pensions experts and you will get proper informed advice on there...
 

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This is the sort of question which really needs independent financial advice and relevant links have been provided to supporting groups so I will draw this to a close.
 
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