Does anyone know when Northern will reshuffle its DMU's?

[DesiroDom]

I am just wondering because now we have 150's or a few of them at least then maybe they will be a stock reallocation on the cards

 

[MidnightFlyer]

I don't really see why a reallocation will be necessary, surely the new units will just go to wherever they are needed without moving everything else?!

 

[theblackwatch]

Allerton is taking over the maintenance of the 156s, and Heaton will be taking on some extra 142s (unsure if these are the ones returned by FGW or a transfer within Northern).

 

[DesiroDom]

Allerton is taking over the maintenance of the 156s, and Heaton will be taking on some extra 142s (unsure if these are the ones returned by FGW or a transfer within Northern).

Probably will be the ones from FGW at least they will be in decent nick compared to the others in the fleet which are in a dire need to be refurbed

 

[driver9000]

No reshuffles on the cards that I'm aware of apart from the already mentioned move of the Newton Heath 156s to Allerton. There would also be the issue of crew training as I don't think Newcastle crews sign 150s. The last reshuffle that Northern did was a few years ago and concentrated types to a depot ie NL 150/2 went to NH, NH 153 and 158s went to NL.

At least 2 of Heatons 'new' 142s are from FGW.

 

[simon7929]

029/064 and 067 now HT.

 

[Tim R-T-C]

So where are the LM units running at the moment?

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Seen them aplenty on Blackpool South-Colne runs, three different units over the past week, all in old LM / NWM colours.

 

[387star]

Probably will be the ones from FGW at least they will be in decent nick compared to the others in the fleet which are in a dire need to be refurbed

They in service with Northern yet?

 

[IanXC]

The changes to allocations are (in numbers of carriages):

Heaton +8 (ex-FGW 142), +8
Neville Hill +20 (ex-FSR 322), +20
Newton Heath +6 (ex-FGW 142), +36 (ex-LM 150), -8 (156 to EMT), -56 (156 to Allerton), -15 (180 to FGW) -37
Allerton +56 (ex NH 156), +56

 

[driver9000]

They in service with Northern yet?

I've heard the Heaton sets are in service but the Newton Heath sets are yet to enter service.

 

[sprinterguy]

Probably will be the ones from FGW at least they will be in decent nick compared to the others in the fleet which are in a dire need to be refurbed

I prefer the high-backed seating Northern Spirit refurbs to the bus seated examples that are now appearing more often working from Heaton (Due to the four extra units at Heaton from FGW). The Northern Spirit interiors wore quickly even in NS days, I think that Northern are taking better care of them than Northern Spirit did in the first place!
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So where are the LM units running at the moment?

They're based at Newton Heath as driver9000 says, so they appear on any route that currently sees 150s radiating from Manchester and around Lancashire.

 

[I like Class 153]

So will the ex LM Class 150's operate on the Sheffield to Manchester (Hope Valley Line) and the Manchester to Buxton services?

 

[tom1649]

So will the ex LM Class 150's operate on the Sheffield to Manchester (Hope Valley Line) and the Manchester to Buxton services?

They already have done.

 

[I like Class 153]

Oh right so next time when I go those routes I hope to go on a ex LM Class 150

 

[142094]

I believe that 150s have to be route signed from Newcastle Central with a Heaton driver on board, along with 144s. This was correct a few years ago, and stuck in my mind as Heaton Depot is only a few miles away and would have been easier for Northern to just train some Neville Hill drivers in the route knowledge needed.

 

[alanf]

Does anyone know were 001 is? Last i heard it went to Heaton but hasn't been used to my knowledge

Alan

 

[Crossover]

Well, I heard it advertised on the news this morning on Radio Aire that as of this morning, Northern now have 15 extra carriages in operation (to be honest, it probably sounds far better than it is as they aren't 153's...)

Must be having some effect though as I spotted a double 144 set leaving Dewsbury heading for Leeds at about 9:15 this morning - to see a double FTPE on the Huddersfield line (well, anywhere I guess!) is rare, but to see a doubled up Northern train on the same line, well, it must be a first for me to be honest!

As for the LM 150's, they are well in service. Saw my first one on the Huddersfield line a week or so back heading into Dewsbury on the Huddersfield all shacks service I believe. Also saw one when with a couple of other forum members last week at Sheffield - noteworthy as it was one of the reformed 150/2's and had 1 green coach and one of the NWM blue ones too

 

[150222]

Some LDS-MCV via mirfield services are now booked for 5 car 142/144 combo's. There was one car before the timetable change. A double 150/2 worked the 17.13 ex-leeds tonight.

 

[DesiroDom]

I would love Heaton to get class 155's 153's or 150's they would be really nice

 

[sprinterguy]

It made for a nice bit of variety when there were 153s operating regularly around the North East. It wasn't much fun when just the one of them turned up though. I remember some packed trains back to Sunderland from Newcastle with 153s, and it would be even worse if it happened now. At least North East local rail users don't have to suffer that problem.

 

[150222]

Don't 153's still occasionally operate tyne valley services? I'm sure I've seen a 150/2 at prudhoe once.

 

[simon7929]

Only 142/156 units in the North East. Other units go to Heaton but for repair only. We have in the past had 143/144/153 and 158 units.

 

[sprinterguy]

Don't 153's still occasionally operate tyne valley services? I'm sure I've seen a 150/2 at prudhoe once.

I've never heard of a 150 working in the North East, for the reasons that 142094 states, plus 150s are supposedly not cleared for use on the Durham Coast and Tyne Valley Lines, which suggests that nobody's ever had reason to bother thinking about it. They only end up in Newcastle when working ECS up the ECML to Heaton.

153s occasionally end up at Heaton to have work done to them as well, and I have seen reports on this forum of them very occasionally working on the Tyne Valley, but personally I haven't seen a 153 at Newcastle in passenger service since NS/ATN moved them away from the area and down to Neville Hill when they were still in Regional Railways livery.

 

[DesiroDom]

I've never heard of a 150 working in the North East, for the reasons that 142094 states, plus 150s are supposedly not cleared for use on the Durham Coast and Tyne Valley Lines, which suggests that nobody's ever had reason to bother thinking about it. They only end up in Newcastle when working ECS up the ECML to Heaton.

153s occasionally end up at Heaton to have work done to them as well, and I have seen reports on this forum of them very occasionally working on the Tyne Valley, but personally I haven't seen a 153 at Newcastle in passenger service since NS/ATN moved them away from the area and down to Neville Hill when they were still in Regional Railways livery.

I remember going on a RR 153 back in the late 90's as a 4 year old it was going to Carlisle if i remember or Metrocentre one of the two it would then return to Morpeth afterwards

 

[simon7929]

Ht had 15 301/304/307/315/317/319/328/331/351/352/357/358/367 and 378. I hated working the bloody things on match days. It wasn't a pleasure on very hot days either too, when everyone decided to take a day out at Redcar or Saltburn.

 

[DesiroDom]

I miss the 153's in Newcastle operating services from Morpeth to Metrocentre