Do Preserved Mainline Steam Locos have Modern Equipment?

[E_Reeves]

Hi everyone,

Just wondering, a few months ago when I was in carlisle, Duchess of Sutherland pulled in on a steam railtour. The train terminated in Carlisle and therefore gained another headcode before moving to some sidings. I saw one of the crew on the loco open up a cupboard and fiddle with something in there for a while. Would this have been the GSM-R or do steam locos not have this?
On a similar note, do steam locos have AWS and if they do surely they wouldn't be able to hear the bell/horn?
Any comments on this matter?

Thanks

 

[Elecman]

All train on NR Infrastructure have to have GSMR and OTMR

 

[37057]

It's possible locos were AWS fitted before they were withdrawn from frontline service. AWS is old kit, from the 1950s if I remember correctly.

 

[rebmcr]

On a similar note, do steam locos have AWS and if they do surely they wouldn't be able to hear the bell/horn?

They do, and the noticability of the indicators was a factor in the Wooton Basset incident.

 

[43096]

All train on NR Infrastructure have to have GSMR and OTMR

And TPWS, presumably.

 

[ffm]

43096 ......yes

 

[Cowley]

The ones that do the Jacobite have RETB fitted too which I seem to remember is portable/transferable?

 

[D365]

The photograph attached to this article shows the radio panel fitted to Tornado.

 

[Cowley]

The photograph attached to this article shows the radio panel fitted to Tornado.

Interesting stuff. I imagine that the cabinets that contain all the high tech equipment must be very well insulated from the various elements swirling around a steam locomotive footplate.

 

[tiptoptaff]

All locomotives deemed fit to operate on the national network must have OTMR, GSMR, AWS and TAMPER PROOF TPWS and RETB equipment where required. In addition, they must be fitted with or carry a high intensity headlight and tail lamp.

Tornado also has electric lights and USB charging points - advantage of being a new build.

 

[E_Reeves]

Is the AWS normal or visual based, or would you be able to hear the horn? I'm asking because surely the noise of the wind would mean you wouldn't be able to hear it?

 

[ffm]

Normal as in horn, bell and visual - AWS is hardly new to use in a steam locomotive cab, having been around since the 1940s and more widespread from the late 1950s

 

[tiptoptaff]

Normal as in horn, bell and visual - AWS is hardly new to use in a steam locomotive cab, having been around since the 1940s and more widespread from the late 1950s

Was first used in a primitive form on the GWR from the 1920s

 

[edwin_m]

GWR ATC started in about 1906. Similar function to AWS (except they didn't have a bell IIRC) and fitted only to distant signals as AWS originally was, but implemented by mechanical and electrical contact instead of magnetic fields.

http://mysite.du.edu/~etuttle/rail/atcgwr.htm