• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Do East Coast serve Inverness?

Status
Not open for further replies.
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

MidnightFlyer

Veteran Member
Joined
16 May 2010
Messages
12,856
Yes. One service each way everyday. Quite possibly the most famous named train still left running in fact - the Highland Chieftain.
 

FQ

Established Member
Associate Staff
Quizmaster
Joined
4 Oct 2013
Messages
6,645
Location
-
07:55 INV-KGX and 12:00 KGX-INV.
 

MidnightFlyer

Veteran Member
Joined
16 May 2010
Messages
12,856
I wouldn't say it was the most famous - I'd say the Flying Scotsman was.

True, but how many would hear 'Flying Scotsman' and think of the old 1930s set-up as opposed to specifically the 0540 Edinburgh-Kings Cross (which I'm assuming it is)? Highland Chieftain is synonymous with Kings Cross-Inverness.
 

Marklund

Member
Joined
18 Nov 2010
Messages
827
True, but how many would hear 'Flying Scotsman' and think of the old 1930s set-up as opposed to specifically the 0540 Edinburgh-Kings Cross (which I'm assuming it is)? Highland Chieftain is synonymous with Kings Cross-Inverness.

Would completely disagree with that.
 

ValleyLines142

Established Member
Joined
25 Jul 2011
Messages
7,035
Location
Gloucester
It's always "The Chieftan" for me.

Don't get me wrong, all four (The Hull Executive, The Highland Cheiftain, The Northern Lights and The Flying Scotsman) are all majorly known, but I think even those who aren't interested in railways would know The Flying Scotsman. Hence my comment.

However, I do agree that in today's world The Highland Cheiftain is famous for it's service, but to me anyway the FS is the ultimate famous train, although of course many people think of the locomotive.

Anyway, as I'm starting to digress now, here are the calling points for each service on The Highland Chieftain:

Northbound (1S16):
Kings Cross (dep 1200); York (arr 1352, dep 1355); Darlington (arr 1421, dep 1423); Newcastle (arr 1451, dep 1454); Berwick-upon-Tweed (arr 1538, dep 1541); Edinburgh (arr 1622, dep 1633); Haymarket (arr 1637, dep 1639); Falkirk Grahamston (arr 1703, dep 1705); Stirling (arr 1718, dep 1723); Gleneagles (arr 1737, dep 1740); Perth (arr 1757, dep 1802); Pitlochry (arr 1829, dep 1831); Kingussie (arr 1914, dep 1916); Aviemore (arr 1927, dep 1929) and Inverness (arr 2004)

Southbound (1E13):
Inverness (dep 0755); Aviemore (arr 0828, dep 0830); Kingussie (arr 0841, dep 0843); Pitlochry (arr 0922, dep 0924); Perth (arr 0954, dep 0957); Gleneagles (arr 1011, dep 1013); Stirling (arr 1028, dep 1032); Falkirk Grahamston (arr 1045, dep 1047); Haymarket (arr 1111, dep 1113); Edinburgh (arr 1117, dep 1130); Newcastle (arr 1254, dep 1257); Darlington (arr 1324, dep 1326); York (arr 1353, dep 1356) and Kings Cross (arr 1549).
 

Freightmaster

Verified Rep
Joined
7 Jul 2009
Messages
4,471
Don't get me wrong, all four (The Hull Executive, The Highland Cheiftain, The Northern Lights and The Flying Scotsman) are all majorly known, but I think even those who aren't interested in railways would know The Flying Scotsman.
Flying Scotsman the loco? definitely.

Flying Scotsman the train? Not so sure...

In fact, the only named train that most people "who aren't
interested in railways" are likely to have heard of is the
Orient Express!!


MARK
 

ValleyLines142

Established Member
Joined
25 Jul 2011
Messages
7,035
Location
Gloucester
In fact, the only named train that most people "who aren't
interested in railways" are likely to have heard of is the
Orient Express!!

I know quite a few people who know what The Flying Scotsman is, both as a loco and the timetabled service and they're not interested in railways. Admittedly they don't know what specific timetabled service it is but you know!!
 

David Barrett

Member
Joined
9 Mar 2013
Messages
554
True, but how many would hear 'Flying Scotsman' and think of the old 1930s set-up as opposed to specifically the 0540 Edinburgh-Kings Cross (which I'm assuming it is)? Highland Chieftain is synonymous with Kings Cross-Inverness.

Depends on age, knowledge, experience etc. For my part I associate it with 10.00 from both ends, as it had been for many years, Deltic and one intermediate stop at Newcastle.
 

Squaddie

Member
Joined
6 Dec 2009
Messages
1,072
Location
London
Don't get me wrong, all four (The Hull Executive, The Highland Cheiftain, The Northern Lights and The Flying Scotsman) are all majorly known, but I think even those who aren't interested in railways would know The Flying Scotsman.
I probably have a greater interest in railways than 99% of the population, but I've never heard of The Hull Executive or The Northern Lights, and I thought The Flying Scotsman was the name of a steam locomotive.
 

FQ

Established Member
Associate Staff
Quizmaster
Joined
4 Oct 2013
Messages
6,645
Location
-
I probably have a greater interest in railways than 99% of the population, but I've never heard of The Hull Executive or The Northern Lights, and I thought The Flying Scotsman was the name of a steam locomotive.

Same here. I definitely knew the highland chieftain but never the Northern Lights or the Hull Executive.
 

Darandio

Established Member
Joined
24 Feb 2007
Messages
11,141
Location
Redcar
You would certainly be in trouble if we started talking of such services as the 'Cleveland Executive' then! :D
 

ValleyLines142

Established Member
Joined
25 Jul 2011
Messages
7,035
Location
Gloucester
I probably have a greater interest in railways than 99% of the population, but I've never heard of The Hull Executive or The Northern Lights, and I thought The Flying Scotsman was the name of a steam locomotive.

Exactly. To me, The FS has been, and always will be, the leading British named train, both as a locomotive and as a timetabled passenger service.

But obviously I completely accept other people's opinions :)
 

David Goddard

Established Member
Joined
8 Aug 2011
Messages
1,515
Location
Ely
There used to be a Yorkshire Pullman, Newcastle Pullman, Scottish Pullman and for a while, Tees-Tyne Pullman in the not too distant past as well!
 

backontrack

Established Member
Joined
2 Feb 2014
Messages
6,399
Location
The UK
Don't get me wrong, all four (The Hull Executive, The Highland Cheiftain, The Northern Lights and The Flying Scotsman) are all majorly known, but I think even those who aren't interested in railways would know The Flying Scotsman. Hence my comment.

All four, eh? What about the West Riding Limited?
 

Busaholic

Veteran Member
Joined
7 Jun 2014
Messages
14,671
The Cornish Riviera Express is 110 years old and only not run during the the two World Wars: just thought I'd give it a mention. Better known than Highland Chieftain in Penzance, I'd be willing to wager.
 

crewmeal

Member
Joined
1 Dec 2007
Messages
462
Location
Birmingham
Perhaps train operators should bring back name plates for trains then the world would be a bit more knowledgeable and this thread would be pointless.
 

higthomas

Established Member
Joined
27 Nov 2012
Messages
1,227
Perhaps train operators should bring back name plates for trains then the world would be a bit more knowledgeable and this thread would be pointless.

Great idea, but it would cost money...

Also it would end up with something like The Cornish Riviera Express name on the front of an Oxford terminator, which might potentially cause confusion and bad press...
 

ainsworth74

Forum Staff
Staff Member
Global Moderator
Joined
16 Nov 2009
Messages
31,100
Location
Redcar
Also it would end up with something like The Cornish Riviera Express name on the front of an Oxford terminator, which might potentially cause confusion and bad press...

Why would the headboard be on the front of an Oxford terminator? Once the down working reached Penzance the plate would be taken off to be brought back, travelling 'passenger', to London to places on the next days service.
 

louis97

Established Member
Joined
14 May 2008
Messages
2,153
Location
Derby
Why would the headboard be on the front of an Oxford terminator? Once the down working reached Penzance the plate would be taken off to be brought back, travelling 'passenger', to London to places on the next days service.

Surely it would just go on the front of the service named the Cornish Riviera Express in the other direction the next day? Therefore requiring 2 of the same headboards - FGW did borrow some headboards from somewhere for potential literature stock images, not sure if they actually got printed on anything though.
 

ainsworth74

Forum Staff
Staff Member
Global Moderator
Joined
16 Nov 2009
Messages
31,100
Location
Redcar
I was under the impression that the Cornish Rivera Express was London - Penzance and there was no return working? If there is then of course you're correct you would just have two and they'd go backwards and forward.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top