Distance from depot

[TDK]

Thanks for all the replies.
If I was based at Waterloo the tfl journey planner says I am 44 minutes
away by train,but aa route planner says 1 hour 20 minutes drive and the distance being 18 miles.
As I would only drive there in the small hours of the morning it would take a lot less time than this,so what measurement would a TOC use?

The Toc will ask how you are going to get to work, if you say the train where ever possible and if the diagrams are such where a train can get you to work than that is what they will use.
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They won't sack you for living too far away and there isn't much they would or could do if you decided to move to the other side of the country a few years into your employment, as long as you keep turning up for work on time and don't keep having incidents related to fatigue.

The whole purpose of the fatigue index is to reduce incidents and ensure the risk is lowered. It is a pro-active measure and not a reactive one. It comes from the Airline Industry and with them is was reactive after 2 planes went down killing many people to kick start the aviation indusstry into enforcing a SMART fatigue plan for all pilots.
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I have applied and been accepted pending a medical but I have to relocate.

Did you agree to this either at interview or application, if so what is the problem?

 

[A-driver]

The whole purpose of the fatigue index is to reduce incidents and ensure the risk is lowered. It is a pro-active measure and not a reactive one. It comes from the Airline Industry and with them is was reactive after 2 planes went down killing many people to kick start the aviation indusstry into enforcing a SMART fatigue plan for all pilots.
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Yes but there is still nothing the company can really do if you decide to move away whilst being employed by them. I can't see anyway they could prevent this-and if all you do is write to HR changing your address then I doubt they will even register that you now live 'too far' away.

 

[TDK]

Yes but there is still nothing the company can really do if you decide to move away whilst being employed by them. I can't see anyway they could prevent this-and if all you do is write to HR changing your address then I doubt they will even register that you now live 'too far' away.

This is a question that you and I are unable to answer as I have not known in my career any driver moving a long distance from their depot without transfering to a local depot or company.

 

[A-driver]

This is a question that you and I are unable to answer as I have not known in my career any driver moving a long distance from their depot without transfering to a local depot or company.

There certainly have been-drivers moving away for whatever reason with either no wish to move companies (don't want the bother of re training etc and don't want to loose seniority) or those who are in able to get a job with other companies (due to incidents or medical reasons).

That is why there are drivers based at London depots who live in places like Suffolk, Devon, Bristol, Cambridgeshire etc and not on the companies which serve those areas where they live either.

 

[youngboy]

Yes but there is still nothing the company can really do if you decide to move away whilst being employed by them. I can't see anyway they could prevent this-and if all you do is write to HR changing your address then I doubt they will even register that you now live 'too far' away.

Could they not just dismiss you for breaking your contract ?? Does the contracts mention distance away from workplace ??

 

[A-driver]

Could they not just dismiss you for breaking your contract ?? Does the contracts mention distance away from workplace ??

Even if it did a company would have a very difficult time enforcing it if the employee challenged them. An employer can't dictate how an employee lives their life outside of work or where they live as long as none of it affects the employees ability to do their job.

Basically you can't say 'to have this job you must live on this street or in this postcode' etc. in the same way you can't discriminate over race/sex/political views etc.

 

[TDK]

Could they not just dismiss you for breaking your contract ?? Does the contracts mention distance away from workplace ??

I believe that some TOC's are adding the fact into the initial contracts regarding time from depot. If the company feels there is a serious risk you could be offered a job at a different location or even a different grade but as for dissmissal I doubt this would happen.
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Basically you can't say 'to have this job you must live on this street or in this postcode' etc. in the same way you can't discriminate over race/sex/political views etc.

But a company can say a candidate (new) needs to be within 45 minutes of the chosen depot or have to relocate as the companies are saying this. It is not discrimination but the reduction of risk and the difference is if you had evicdence that you were refused a job due to race, sex or political views you could claim but you could not claim if you are too far from the depot.

 

[455driver]

I used to work on the buses and slept in one morning so rung work and asked if they could get my bus ready and I would be there in time to take it out of the depot.

The result was 13.2 miles in 8 minutes and 20 seconds from locking the house door to running into the sign on point, top speed of 128mph (that was all the bike could do, Honda CBX550F2D).

Wouldnt do it these days though, "they" have taken all the fun out of motorbiking, plus I now realise it was a bloody stupid thing to do even at 0450 on a Tuesday morning!

So using my "average" speed on the above trip I could cover 47.5 miles in 30 minutes or 95 miles in an hour.

Dont think they will use these distances though!

 

[TDK]

I used to work on the buses and slept in one morning so rung work and asked if they could get my bus ready and I would be there in time to take it out of the depot.

The result was 13.2 miles in 8 minutes and 20 seconds from locking the house door to running into the sign on point, top speed of 128mph (that was all the bike could do, Honda CBX550F2D).

Wouldnt do it these days though, "they" have taken all the fun out of motorbiking, plus I now realise it was a bloody stupid thing to do even at 0450 on a Tuesday morning!

So using my "average" speed on the above trip I could cover 47.5 miles in 30 minutes or 95 miles in an hour.

Dont think they will use these distances though!

And if you quoted those figures at an interview you will surely fail unless you have a helicopter

 

[455driver]

And if you quoted those figures at an interview you will surely fail unless you have a helicopter

Well, now you mention it!

Oh my work hack is now a peugeot 106 diesel which wont quite match those figures either!

 

[jc1]

The Toc will ask how you are going to get to work, if you say the train where ever possible and if the diagrams are such where a train can get you to work than that is what they will use.
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The whole purpose of the fatigue index is to reduce incidents and ensure the risk is lowered. It is a pro-active measure and not a reactive one. It comes from the Airline Industry and with them is was reactive after 2 planes went down killing many people to kick start the aviation indusstry into enforcing a SMART fatigue plan for all pilots.
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Did you agree to this either at interview or application, if so what is the problem?

Yes so I don't have a problem as I wont be based at a London depot.I was just wondering if you have to live within 30 or 45 minutes of say Waterloo then its not feasible with just a slightly better London weighting.