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Disabled Railcard query

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Deerfold

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To be honest, I think the rail industry is a unique beast. At the risk of getting flamed. Customer service and ease of booking is at the bottom of the list. Certainly the style of the differing and competing companies within it doesn't lend itself to illustrating customer focus and service. Whereas airlines know you have a choice and can make that choice easily.

Example, when you get off a train at a terminus, is there a tannoy message thanking you for choosing that TOC? There is on a plane, thanking you for choosing that airline.

In my experience this is fairly common with the long distance train operators.

In my comparisons I am using trainline.com directly, and the TOC direct websites. I must admit to being surprised at the lack of difference in this morning's comparison, maybe things are improving!!

I don't know if you noticed my earlier reply pointing out that if for some reasoin you do want to use the trainline you can get railcard discounts on top of any other fare savings they offer.
 
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I admit to being a little concerned when you state that you are using a "bundle" for all your utilities. If you are using the company that springs to my mind - they are using the same sort of "come ons" that the trainline do. If you saved £120 a month with them, then you could have saved far more by going else where ! A company that gains business by using customers as sales agents and pays "cash back" HAS to get extra revenue from somewhere to cover the cost of this - only one source, its customers !!
If you are not using this particular company - please ignore my last paragraph !

Ignoring your last paragraph. :D

Not used as a sales agent; i didn't believe it was a double glazing company now offering utilities. No board in the garden. No sign up now, once I phone my boss from your phone to get today's special price. :D:D Bit too long in the tooth for those scams I'm afraid.

Having once been bitten by a company supplying gas/electric who used my then partners details to change my account to them without my authority, I'm very wary of these deals and tend to do my homework.

The broadband speed here is very slow, below 2meg, so no need to pay for super fast speeds that was previously part of the monthly fee. That part goes toward the savings.

On the gas/electric, had not shopped around since the previous biting mentioned above. Certainly current offerings from energy suppliers do not come anywhere near the current costs, and that is without the phone and broadband which would then need to be bought elsewhere at added cost. 0844 calls are no charge.

Even had one of the energy co's come and try to install cavity insulation into already insulated cavities; because they could save us money. A joy to watch the crew scratching their heads as to why they couldn't pump any insulation in. But you can only tell people so much if they are intent on selling you something you don't need!!! :D

Don't get me started on solar energy!!

I'm enjoying this forum. Much as i did my time in the rail industry. Good discussions. :D:D
 

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To be honest, I think the rail industry is a unique beast. At the risk of getting flamed. Customer service and ease of booking is at the bottom of the list. Certainly the style of the differing and competing companies within it doesn't lend itself to illustrating customer focus and service. Whereas airlines know you have a choice and can make that choice easily.

Example, when you get off a train at a terminus, is there a tannoy message thanking you for choosing that TOC? There is on a plane, thanking you for choosing that airline.

Granted there is not the choice of TOCs on same routes. But there is still a need to put the customer first. Certainly the framework of the industry with over regulation, too many chiefs and not enough injuns, fighting between the various parties, layers of cost on cost, punitive performance regimes that take money out of service delivery are all contributors to the mess and complexity of fares and bookings.

I also think their is a degree of 'don't care less' with some TOCs taking the captive customer base of commuters for granted.

Even if comparison is drawn with, say Ryanair in the airline industry. At least with Ryanair you know low price drives their poor service and that anything beyond basic has a tariff that makes it poor value for money.

In my comparisons I am using trainline.com directly, and the TOC direct websites. I must admit to being surprised at the lack of difference in this morning's comparison, maybe things are improving!!

Having spent a frustrating time this monring booking tickets for October, I fully agree that the process is not customer friendly, and I pretty much know what I'm doing! If Iw as startin g out as a relative nvoice, and wanting to book two tickets from A to B, I doubt I;d really know where to start. (I'm a bit like that with airlines, as I'm not at all familiar with who serves where, so it takes me ages to go through every airline site I cna think of!).

A lot of my furstration with the booking process is the requirment to log in or register, the extra security checks put in by the banks (Verisign), and the difficulty of finding the exact ticket I want to buy, even though i know what it;s called and where it;s routed via!

As an example, Iw as trying to get £31 FC advance fares from Swansea to Gatwick via Guidlford and Reading, but the via London route at £35 comes up automatically because it happens to be 4 minutes quicker according to the journey planners! then you go and answer the phone and get timed out, so you have tos tart the whole performance all over again...I just had to answer the phone again, and it's delayed me for 20 minutes, fortunately the forums don;t time out!

In regard to the comparisons, in the vast majority of cases the actual fares quoted will be exactly the same. Differences can be accounted for by either by TOC only discounts, or differences betweeen WebTIS engies and the trainline powered ones. These can cause different routes to appear by default, and it's important to try various options - this applies whatever site you are on!

In general, for most things, it's as you say - you can often get the best deals by going directly to the website of the supplier. If that's not the case, they will often match or beat the quote from a competitior, particularly insurance, hotels, car hire and the like.
 

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As much as I hate pedants the discount is £1 per ticket. Advance tickets are all singles, you need another single to make a return. The advert quotes £2 discount when buying two singles, ie £1 each way.

TOCs vary as to whether they thank you for travelling with them. In my experience, Southeastern rarely do while East Coast always do - although it is on the train just before arrival at the destination rather than as you walk down the platform.
 

keefysher

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As much as I hate pedants the discount is £1 per ticket. Advance tickets are all singles, you need another single to make a return. The advert quotes £2 discount when buying two singles, ie £1 each way.

Without sounding harsh, isn't the fact that the discount is per ticket an example of the lack of clarity? The table illustrated compares each line by column, not by banner at the top. The banner line states return fare. The figures showing for the price is £32, not £16 X 2.


In simple terms, or to quote that age old joke:
'Paddy says to Mick, I've pulled one over on British Rail, I've bought a return ticket, but I'm not going back.'


When at a restaraunt do you pay for each course as you order them?
 

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Whenever I eat in at McDonalds! I don't want the ice cream to melt before I've eaten the burger.;)

Although the advert does list the prices for returns (because that's what most people do) it does say that the fare quoted will get you two singles. Anyway, this is only a side discussion.
 

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I'm confused - someone said they didn't take up a disabled railcard because they found the trainline cheaper. Don't you get railcard discounts on most advance purchase tickets too? I'm sure my other half does (which is why he's always travelling in first class and I'm not!).
 

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I'm confused - someone said they didn't take up a disabled railcard because they found the trainline cheaper. Don't you get railcard discounts on most advance purchase tickets too? I'm sure my other half does (which is why he's always travelling in first class and I'm not!).

That's what confused me initially. The comparison I did for London - Edinburgh earlier in the thread showed railcard discounts on East Coast's own website and the Trainline.
 

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I'm confused - someone said they didn't take up a disabled railcard because they found the trainline cheaper. Don't you get railcard discounts on most advance purchase tickets too? I'm sure my other half does (which is why he's always travelling in first class and I'm not!).

Yes - I've tried to point it out twice so far!
 
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