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Direct Tallinn - Riga rail service begins

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I've just stumbled across this article, which states that direct services between Tallinn and Riga started on Monday. No change in Valga required, with the unit (an Elron FLIRT) travelling down to Riga in the afternoon and returning the following morning.

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On Monday at 2:50 p.m., the first Tallinn-Tartu-Riga route departed from Balti Jaam in Tallinn, arriving at Riga Central Railway Station on Monday evening at 8:46 p.m.
Initially, international tickets will be sold for the route, while domestic Latvian tickets between Valmiera and Riga will be offered in the coming weeks, Elron announced.
From January 12, the Tallinn–Tartu–Riga train will depart from Tallinn at 2:50 p.m., from Tartu at 5:05 p.m., and arrive in Riga at 8:46 p.m. The train will depart from Riga at 7:38 a.m., arrive in Tartu at 11:25 a.m., and arrive in Tallinn at 1:57 p.m. The first departure in the Riga–Tartu–Tallinn direction will be on January 13 at 7:38 a.m.
According to the current timetable, the Tartu–Riga trip takes 3 hours and 41 minutes, the Tallinn–Riga trip takes 5 hours and 56 minutes.
A ticket from Tartu to Riga costs 19–22 euros, from Tallinn to Riga 29–32 euros. The route is operated by two-car Stadler Flirt diesel trains.
One train a day, which runs to Riga in the evening and back in the morning, is estimated to require about one million euros in state subsidies per year.
The Tallinn-Tartu-Riga train line was launched in cooperation with the Ministry of Climate, the Ministry of Regional Development and Agriculture, the City of Tartu, the Latvian passenger train operator Vivi, and other Latvian partners.

The timetable is also available here. This now has the quirk of meaning that the Valmiera-Riga route in Latvia now has a train from each of the three Baltic operators on it (the Vilnius-Valga service being a Lithuanian LTG Link unit).
 
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It is strange to see a two carriage diesel train operate a six hour long intercity service and it doesn't look like they have plans to order something more appropriate either. Then again VY operate three services per day from Malmo to Oslo which is also six hours long on a five car Stadler Flirt.
 

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I do wonder if there is really a need for all these new direct Vilnius to Valga and Riga to Tallinn services. Lots of frequent connections would be much better. There seems to be an obsession with countries wanting direct trains everywhere but i find that frequent easy well timed connections are far better than odd once a day through services. I would rather they worked on increasing the frequencies of the Vilnius to Riga and Riga to Valga and Valga to Tallinn services.

Seeing that all these new services have started it makes me wonder if they eventually plan to have a direct Vilnius to Tallinn service on one train.

Also putting a two car flirt on this new Riga to Tallinn service is crazy especially when Elron have plenty of four coach flirts in their fleet to use instead.

Interestingly this new Tallinn to Riga service seems to stay overnight in Riga before returning. I am surprised as i thought it would do the full return trip on one day like the Vilnius to Valga service. It means that Elron will have to pay for overnight hotel stays in Riga every day unless PV are planning to train their staff on the flirts and have them take over for the Riga to Valga section.
 

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Elron recently opened the electrification to Tapa and is working on Tartu, which will cascade some diesel units to other lines and presumably also, eventually, Latvia.

I believe the service is worked Valga-Riga by Vivi staff: at least the Elron website says "in the Latvian republic the train is operated in cooperation with Vivi (AS Pasažieru vilciens)" and that would be a similar arrangement to the Vilnius train: Latvian staff already work this train to/from Jelgava.
 

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the Baltics are an area i feel like sleeper trains would work well in but seems to never had the revival such services had in the west
 

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I do wonder if there is really a need for all these new direct Vilnius to Valga and Riga to Tallinn services. Lots of frequent connections would be much better. There seems to be an obsession with countries wanting direct trains everywhere but i find that frequent easy well timed connections are far better than odd once a day through services. I would rather they worked on increasing the frequencies of the Vilnius to Riga and Riga to Valga and Valga to Tallinn services.
From following the conversations in the (long) run up to the introduction of this route, I think it was mostly intended to serve Tartu - Riga more than Tallinn - Riga; at least this is how it has always been described. News article describing planned service from Tartu to Riga

Also putting a two car flirt on this new Riga to Tallinn service is crazy especially when Elron have plenty of four coach flirts in their fleet to use instead.
Elron is really short of diesel trains at the moment. The Flirt fleet has never been big enough to cope with the massive increase in passenger numbers that accompanied the massive improvement from the previous Soviet Edelaraudtee / Elektriraudtee fleets and has been subject to ongoing overcrowding. News article about overcrowding after introduction of new fleet Further, they always seem to have a lot of units out of action because of level crossing accidents; I think currently 2. News article about service changes following recent accident

Line upgrades have allowed the current fleet to run faster and therefore more intensively; but of course faster more frequent services have then in turn made the services more attractive and simulated even more demand.

However the government aspires to completely electrify the country, so there isn't politcal will to buy more diesel trains. Article about plans to electrify entire network I suspect it may not be reasonable to electrify the routes from Tartu to Koidula / Piusa and Valga; they are very lightly used rural routes and the fact that one of them points at Russia makes it an even less important connection than it was before; but it is nevertheless the current intention!

When you look at the current situation it seems like they got themselves into a strange situation. However 20 years ago service levels were things like 2 trains a day to Tartu that took 3.5 hours, and it was absolutely possible that the entire passenger network could have been abandoned. It would have taken a brave person to predict what was going to happen next correctly!

Interestingly this new Tallinn to Riga service seems to stay overnight in Riga before returning. I am surprised as i thought it would do the full return trip on one day like the Vilnius to Valga service. It means that Elron will have to pay for overnight hotel stays in Riga every day unless PV are planning to train their staff on the flirts and have them take over for the Riga to Valga section.

It is run by PV in Latvia. I think I'm right in saying that the LTG Link service is too, on that section?

the Baltics are an area i feel like sleeper trains would work well in but seems to never had the revival such services had in the west
With a view to Rail Baltica (which plans Tallinn - Vienna and Berlin sleepers), and operators are more reluctant to do capital intensive short term things (like, for example, upgrading the current railway from Tallinn to Parnu ahead of Rail Baltica).
Until the Events of 2020 there was a Ukrzaliznytsia service from Kyiv to Riga and plans to extend it to Tallinn, and they were perhaps the ideal operator for that kind of route; there was a good match between slow old tracks and slow old cheap stock. 2020 got in the way of that, and then of course 2022 changed Ukrzaliznytsia's priorities and whether or not they could operate in Belarus. Article about Kyiv - Riga service

It is strange to see a two carriage diesel train operate a six hour long intercity service and it doesn't look like they have plans to order something more appropriate either. Then again VY operate three services per day from Malmo to Oslo which is also six hours long on a five car Stadler Flirt.
Being more intended to serve the Tartu - Riga market, and given the fleet shortages, 2 carriages is about right. It won't be enough in the summer for sure, but in the same way as absolutely nothing they run on the Tallinn - Rapla - Viljandi line is ever capable of being long enough!
 
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It is strange to see a two carriage diesel train operate a six hour long intercity service and it doesn't look like they have plans to order something more appropriate either. Then again VY operate three services per day from Malmo to Oslo which is also six hours long on a five car Stadler Flirt.
It is strange indeed but we have to keep in mind that fairly recently there was no viable option to travel between Baltic capitals (or other cities) at all. This is a huge upgrade compared to what was i.e. literally nothing.
Another thing is rolling stock. Neither Elron nor Vivi have anything in service that could pass as intercity/long distance rolling stock. LTG Link managed to spare one Pesa 730ML for Vilnius-Riga-Valga (continued to Tallinn with Elron) service but even that was an afterthought. Sadly, it seems, even today when demand for international rail travel within Baltics is obvious, neither of the national operators are taking the need of rolling stock into consideration for any of the international routes. All talk is Rail Baltica which probably won't get fully completed before 2040 or thereabouts and 1520 mm network could be put to good use with good travel times even tomorrow if they simply bought a few hybrid trains suited for long distance intercity trips.
 

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yea a variable gauge fleet would make alot of sence. somthing similar to what Spain does could work well for the Baltics, even pre rail baltica it could allow the Poland-Lithuania services to be thru running rather than a train change at mockova

sounds like there already is a SUW 2000 setup at Mockova but its limitations (max 160km/h wheelsets and no motive power) make it impratical for a wider deployment on Rail Baltica so better to standardise to something else
 

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yea a variable gauge fleet would make alot of sence. somthing similar to what Spain does could work well for the Baltics, even pre rail baltica it could allow the Poland-Lithuania services to be thru running rather than a train change at mockova

sounds like there already is a SUW 2000 setup at Mockova but its limitations (max 160km/h wheelsets and no motive power) make it impratical for a wider deployment on Rail Baltica so better to standardise to something else
Rail Baltica and railway connection from Baltics to Poland is a very important albeit a separate issue. Rail connections specifically between Baltic countries don't need Rail Baltica and the blocker seems to be not rail infrastructure but lack of cooperation and political will among the governments and national railway companies in Vilnius, Riga and Tallinn. There are signs that this is shifting and things are better than they used to be, but I just wish they improved it faster and wouldn't put it all on Rail Baltica since 1520 mm is perfectly intact and usable.
 
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