Dilemma on my ALR Again!

[sonic2009]

Hi all. Currently in Wales at Le Welshpool ")

I'm going to London. To stay in a Hostel i booked. so im ready to bash the south tommorow, now this 2104 from here to wolverhampton arr 2208 is 40late.

Now i think im going to miss the connection at Wolves at 2245 What's the options. Will Arriva get Virgin to hold that Last Euston?

Opnions needed.

And if anyone is Wondering how i got from Birmingham International to Welshpool this evening. I went by car with an Friend, she picked up her new motor from solihull (bought from auto trader) she needed someone to drive back with her ")

 

[rail-britain]

Now i think im going to miss the connection at Wolves at 2245 What's the options. Will Arriva get Virgin to hold that Last Euston?

No, if it is the last connection you need to contact Arriva and advise them your train arrived too late to make this connection, the 22:45 to take you to Euston
They will then give you a choice of hotel or taxi

 

[sonic2009]

No, if it is the last connection you need to contact Arriva and advise them your train arrived too late to make this connection, the 22:45 to take you to Euston
They will then give you a choice of hotel or taxi

I've just done that. Arriva are Shut!! I will wait for the guard to come round, he will kno more info.

 

[transportphoto]

I've just done that. Arriva are Shut!! I will wait for the guard to come round, he will kno more info.

I'd go find him if I were you! ATW should be paying for your taxi to EUS / hotel in Wolves.

 

[networkrail1]

Just looked on (A railstaff website), and you will currently be 1 min late for your conection.

However both trains are due on the same platform, so it depends on what the siggie does, he may put your train in first or he may do it by the book and let VT in and leave you to wait.

if you dont want to be stuck in a hotel or taxi, i suppose you could carry on on the train your on to birmingham new street, as at the present time the train your on is due into new street at 23:03 and the VT is due in at 23:04 however it isnt due to depart untill 23:10.

All the best.

Simon

 

[sonic2009]

Just looked on (A railstaff website), and you will currently be 1 min late for your conection.

However both trains are due on the same platform, so it depends on what the siggie does, he may put your train in first or he may do it by the book and let VT in and leave you to wait.

if you dont want to be stuck in a hotel or taxi, i suppose you could carry on on the train your on to birmingham new street, as at the present time the train your on is due into new street at 23:03 and the VT is due in at 23:04 however it isnt due to depart untill 23:10.

All the best.

Simon

thanks simon, thats what the plan is only thing is. if this train gets delayed a few mins more whether the siggy puts the 2249 stopper to new street from wolves out in front of this one.

 

[Minilad]

Definitely stay on till New Street.
You are expected at 2304 Plat 4
Euston leaves at 2310 Plat 3
Cross platform connection. Should be no problem
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thanks simon, thats what the plan is only thing is. if this train gets delayed a few mins more whether the siggy puts the 2249 stopper to new street from wolves out in front of this one.

Expected time at Wolves ATM is 2247. They can hold the stopper for 3 mins I think

 

[mickey]

I would carry on to New St and assume you'll make it. If not there'll be someone there who can help you.

 

[junglejames]

To be honest, whats the chance of your train overtaking the Pendo between Wolves and Birmingham NS? Not very much. Also, the National Rail website has the Pendo down as leaving Birmingham at 2304. Not 2310. Your not going to make it by the seems of it.

Also, whats the rules with rovers? Obviously if you have a ticket all the way through, then they have to get you a taxi, but what if you have a rover ticket? You havent actually got a contract with them to take you through to London.

 

[Minilad]

To be honest, whats the chance of your train overtaking the Pendo between Wolves and Birmingham NS? Not very much. Also, the National Rail website has the Pendo down as leaving Birmingham at 2304. Not 2310. Your not going to make it by the seems of it.

Also, whats the rules with rovers? Obviously if you have a ticket all the way through, then they have to get you a taxi, but what if you have a rover ticket? You havent actually got a contract with them to take you through to London.

1B46 arr BHM 2304 dep 2310
Platform 3

 

[networkrail1]

the National Rail website has the Pendo down as leaving Birmingham at 2304. Not 2310.
.

You may want to check that again on both our rail staff site and national rail show a 23:10 departure.

http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/en/s/ldbboard/dep/BHM/EUS/To

All the best.

Simon

 

[junglejames]

1B46 arr BHM 2304 dep 2310
Platform 3

The NRES website is wrong then! You may just make it then! Sonic, did you go for this train on purpose as it was running so late?!!! lol

 

[tbtc]

I'd like to know how much TOCs have to spend each year on taxis/ hotels etc... it all needs to be paid for somehow...

 

[junglejames]

You may want to check that again on both our rail staff site and national rail show a 23:10 departure.

http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/en/s/ldbboard/dep/BHM/EUS/To

All the best.

Simon

Sorry, your right. It depends what departure board you look at. If you look at the Wolves one, like i was, and bring up details on the Euston train, then it gives Birmingham dep as 2304. However bring up Birmingham dep boards, and you get the correct time.

 

[sonic2009]

The NRES website is wrong then! You may just make it then! Sonic, did you go for this train on purpose as it was running so late?!!! lol

No Didnt go for it on purpouse orignal plan was to stay up in welshpool and travel home tommorow. but i managed to get a hostel for cheap in london. and i was bashing london tommorow. so was going to get this train anyways

 

[transportphoto]

Sorry, your right. It depends what departure board you look at. If you look at the Wolves one, like i was, and bring up details on the Euston train, then it gives Birmingham dep as 2304. However bring up Birmingham dep boards, and you get the correct time.

I can confirm that - yep - seems that that is your best plan sonic stay on to New St cross platform interchange to the 2310 UP EUS.

 

[networkrail1]

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Your gaining time sonic your currently 40 down you were 43 down.

All the best.

Simon

 

[sonic2009]

have just left shrewsbury 39down.

Whats wrong with the Cambrian Anyway. Has ERTMS Failed?

 

[rail-britain]

I would agree, whilst on the train and with plenty of notice seek out the guard
If the connection has left, then staff at Wolverhampton should assist you including how to contact Arriva out of hours if necessary, but this late at night they should do this for you
If you are advised to phone Arriva, simply advise you don't have the means for doing so (keep any mobile phone on silent and hidden)

 

[sonic2009]

I would agree, whilst on the train and with plenty of notice seek out the guard
If the connection has left, then staff at Wolverhampton should assist you including how to contact Arriva out of hours if necessary, but this late at night they should do this for you
If you are advised to phone Arriva, simply advise you don't have the means for doing so (keep any mobile phone on silent and hidden)

new guard at shrewsbury, has said we should make it to Birmingham New Street in time.

 

[networkrail1]

Your currently 37 down so your still gaining time its looking good so far.

All the best.

Simon

 

[Minilad]

This is getting exciting. Will he wont he.
I'm on the edge of my seat !!

 

[sonic2009]

Your currently 37 down so your still gaining time its looking good so far.

All the best.

Simon

lets just hope the signalman is nice at wolverhampton ")

 

[networkrail1]

I suppose i could make a phone call.

All the best.

Simon

 

[Minilad]

lets just hope the signalman is nice at wolverhampton ")

Now you are asking for miracles !!

 

[b0b]

Wow this is cutting it close, 22:45 WVH

 

[voyagerdude220]

have just left shrewsbury 39down.

Whats wrong with the Cambrian Anyway. Has ERTMS Failed?

I was wondering that myself, having just had a quick look at today's LDB data for services between SHR and AYW. I think it all started when the 13:27 SHR to AYW was held for 24 mins, with the 15:27 also 25 mins late, but it got even worse when the 17:27/19:27 were held for around 45-50 mins!

I do hope you make it Sonic2009! Your original ALR thread made for some very fascinating reading!

 

[networkrail1]

Your holding at 37 down at the min not gaining or loseing.

All the best.

Simon

 

[Minilad]

As long as you get in front of the local at Wolves you will be fine.
You should do now

 

[mickey]

Also, whats the rules with rovers? Obviously if you have a ticket all the way through, then they have to get you a taxi, but what if you have a rover ticket?

I believe they have to treat you as if you hold a ticket to a particular destination, though how (if) they know you're taking the **** is anyone's guess. Certainly when I was travelling Hexham-Liverpool on a NW Rover the guard said they'd have to sort me out at Carlisle if necessary - though in the end I ran like mad across the station and miraculously guessed which was the guard's door and just made it in time so never did get to test it out.