• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Did Southern Class 456s often operate with the 455s?

Transilien

Member
Joined
10 Mar 2024
Messages
728
Location
Ayrshire
Every time I see a photo of a Southern Class 456, they seem to be coupled together or alone. This seems to contradict the original intent that BR had for these units, that they would couple with their 455 cousins.
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

mmh

Established Member
Joined
13 Aug 2016
Messages
4,244
Yes, very frequently on routes like Charing Cross - London Bridge - East Croydon, or London Bridge to Victoria. I used to often deliberately choose the 456 part as it had a toilet.

They were often single units on routes like the South London Line.
 

Magdalia

Established Member
Joined
1 Jan 2022
Messages
7,285
Location
The Fens
Every time I see a photo of a Southern Class 456, they seem to be coupled together or alone. This seems to contradict the original intent that BR had for these units, that they would couple with their 455 cousins.
It happened on the "Cats and Tats":



It was common on South Western on 10 car trains.
 

Rescars

Established Member
Joined
25 May 2021
Messages
2,516
Location
Surrey
It happened on the "Cats and Tats":
Yes, very frequently on routes like Charing Cross - London Bridge - East Croydon, or London Bridge to Victoria. I used to often deliberately choose the 456 part as it had a toilet.

Further to mmh's comment, it was the Tat portion which normally had the benefit of the toilet. More seats but fewer facilities for passengers for Caterham!
 

Strathclyder

Established Member
Joined
12 Jun 2013
Messages
3,819
Location
Clydebank
It wasn't unknown to see 2 456s working in multiple with a 455 on both the Southern and South Western to form a 8-car train:


Having 456s strung together on their own with no 455 in sight wasn't unheard of either to form at most a 6-car train:


(both linked images copyright of Flickr's 6089Gardener)
 

norbitonflyer

Established Member
Joined
24 Mar 2020
Messages
5,657
Location
SW London
It was common on South Western on 10 car trains.
It was the 10-car programme that was the reason SWT acquired the 456s (and converted the 458s to 5-car)

pri_49626864.jpg

(Picture shows the Class 456-led 10-car train that was derailed at waterloo during the platform extension work)
 

03_179

Established Member
Joined
13 Aug 2008
Messages
3,861
Location
At my desk
Yes.
Often the London Bridge to Tatten peak hour trains via Streatham were 2x 455 and 1x 456.

I would catch them many evening from Streatham to Selhurst
 

Top