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Deutschlandticket lives for another year

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The annual federal-Land budget bust-up meeting today is reported to have agreed that each side will spend 1.5 billion keeping Deutschlandticket alive in 2024 and split any overspend 50/50 again. No real detail on solving the problems though.

The FDP, smallest party in the coalition, seems to think that merging Verkehrsverbund would save towards the funding gap. How saving a percentage of the administrative costs of the fares system could be significant compared to the costs of operating transport, let alone investment needed for passenger growth, is beyond my comprehension.
 
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I heard that the question mark over the service was caused by a troublemaker coalition partner in the Government.
 

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FDP is pro-car. They run the finance and transport ministries. Roughly = UK Lib Dems.

Deutschlandticket came about in a mania for 'Entlastung', roughly tax cuts and the like. FDP wanted a road fuel tax subsidy. Greens wanted a public transport subsidy. Deutschlandticket was born very messily. The road fuel reduction was time limited but the public transport measure runs on, for now at least.

As I see it, it's not so much that the FDP is a troublemaker, all 3 parties are but that's what the voters voted for. As an improvement to the prevous left-right coalition. Messy public compromises are inevitable.
 

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Thanks for the explanation, although the UK Lib Dems are generally more pro-public transport.

Good to see that the right side won out anyway
 

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FDP is pro-car. They run the finance and transport ministries. Roughly = UK Lib Dems.
They are socially liberal - their Leader was a gay man and Deputy Chancellor under Angela Merkel and no-one batted an eyelid, but they are more economically rightwing than the CDU (though not their Bavarian counterpart, the CSU). They are classically seen as the party of small businesses and car drivers
Deutschlandticket came about in a mania for 'Entlastung', roughly tax cuts and the like. FDP wanted a road fuel tax subsidy. Greens wanted a public transport subsidy. Deutschlandticket was born very messily. The road fuel reduction was time limited but the public transport measure runs on, for now at least.

As I see it, it's not so much that the FDP is a troublemaker, all 3 parties are but that's what the voters voted for. As an improvement to the prevous left-right coalition. Messy public compromises are inevitable.
I don't think voters necessarily voted for a particular coalition, to be honest. The FDP USUALLY favour a coalition with the CDU/CSU over the SPD (Labour Party equivalent). For some bizarre reason, the previous coalition gave the transport ministry to the CSU (Bavarian Conservatives), who tried to force through a law that would have meant foreign trucks having to pay thousands of euros in tolls. The FDP's polls have fallen precipitously since they joined the coalition - whether they last the full term is anyone's guess. But, getting back to original subject, whether the D-Ticket lasts is definitely moot.
 

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Bizarre? CSU running BM*V seemed part of the unwritten constitution, or an SDP man in hoc to the car industry.

Andy Scheuer was as embarrassing as our Failing Grayling.
 

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The DeutschlandTicket is getting its first cracks.
The Stendal region (although small) decided not to pay the needed funds of €40 000 to the local bus operator. Therefore the ticket is not valid on Stendalmobil buses in 2024.
Lets hope this will not create a domino effect as others ( such as Lindau) are thinking on similar terms.

Below a German language Link.

Martin
 
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