Derailment on Calder Valley line

[JohnB57]

Published online by The Huddersfield Examiner, Wednesday 7th November 2012

A TRAIN has been derailed between Mirfield and Wakefield Kirkgate causing delays of up to 45 minutes.

The line between Huddersfield, Wakefield and Brighouse has been affected.

Buses are replacing trains between Huddersfield and Wakefield Westgate, calling at Deighton, Mirfield and Wakefield Kirkgate.

Grand Central services between Bradford Interchange and London King's Cross will be diverted and not call at Brighouse or Mirfield.

Journey times may be extended by up to 45 minutes.

The incident, which is believed to involve a freight train, was reported at 8.32am.

Curious as to the diversion route for the GC service - possibly originating from Halifax with revised timings, then New Pudsey etc?

 

[Deerfold]

That's on the Huddersfield Line, not the Caldervale line.

http://www.wymetro.com/NR/rdonlyres/B460561C-C18A-4310-8764-791B3674EC0A/0/Rail_map2011.pdf

 

[JohnB57]

That's on the Huddersfield Line, not the Caldervale line.

http://www.wymetro.com/NR/rdonlyres/B460561C-C18A-4310-8764-791B3674EC0A/0/Rail_map2011.pdf

It's on the Calder Valley main line. I didn't say "Caldervale", which is just the name given to a number of connected services. Also, it's the Wakefield side of Ravensthorpe junction and won't have an effect on Huddersfield/Leeds services and that's why I chose the title, in an attempt to avoid confusion.

 

[yorksrob]

Via Leeds and Wakefield westgate would seem the best option (although whether there are any paths between Mirfield and Leeds is another matter).

 

[JohnB57]

Via Leeds and Wakefield westgate would seem the best option (although whether there are any paths between Mirfield and Leeds is another matter).

If GC routed via Mirfield, there'd be no need to cut the Brighouse and Mirfield stops, so I guess it will be (Halifax)/Bradford/New Pudsey/Holbeck/Kirkgate. This would avoid reversal in Leeds. I wonder if GC drivers sign this route though?

A couple of services will have operated by now so I wonder if anyone knows the actual route?

 

[185]

I didn't say "Caldervale", which is just the name given to a number of connected services. Also, it's the Wakefield side of Ravensthorpe junction and won't have an effect on Huddersfield/Leeds services and that's why I chose the title, in an attempt to avoid confusion.

Derailment is at Healey Mills. Not on the Calder Valley line.

Ask any qualified guard or driver from the area, do you sign the Calder Valley, he/she'll assume maybe Todmorden Rochdale, or Halifax. Ask a guard or driver, do you sign Healey Mills, and he/she'll assume you mean Mirfield to Wakey Kirkgate.

Regardless of what the route was called in eighteen-sixty something, the line which was blocked today is the Healey Mills route. Whilst I agree the River Calder runs alongside it as you approach the gantry at the throat of the goods yard, there is no valley, hence it is a long way from the actual Network Rail-named Calder Valley route.

 

[JohnB57]

Derailment is at Healey Mills. Not on the Calder Valley line.

Ask any qualified guard or driver from the area, do you sign the Calder Valley, he/she'll assume maybe Todmorden Rochdale, or Halifax. Ask a guard or driver, do you sign Healey Mills, and he/she'll assume you mean Mirfield to Wakey Kirkgate.

Regardless of what the route was called in eighteen-sixty something, the line which was blocked today is the Healey Mills route. Whilst I agree the River Calder runs alongside it as you approach the gantry at the throat of the goods yard, there is no valley, hence it is a long way from the actual Network Rail-named Calder Valley route.

I bow to your superior knowledge of railway terminology. But it's not called the Caldervale or Huddersfield lines either, is it? The Examiner article wasn't specific so I had no idea exactly where it was and hoped someone might elucidate.

Not really worth an argument. The wording and the link were both included for clarity so I'm sure there was no confusion.

 

[Donny Dave]

All lines now reopened according to Northern on Twitter

 

[Lampshade]

I bow to your superior knowledge of railway terminology. But it's not called the Caldervale or Huddersfield lines either, is it?

Brighouse - Mirfield - Wakefield Kirkgate is the Huddersfield Line.

 

[185]

Brighouse - Mirfield - Wakefield Kirkgate is the Huddersfield Line.

That's the Elland route isn't it?

I agree that's what WY Metro call it, but they are quite a strange bunch often coming up with some ambiguous names that could really refer to one of 5 lines really. Liverpool-Warrington could also effectively be the Huddersfield line in that train of thought.

My opinion, but the names Network Rail and TOC traincrew use for the lines are the most accurate and descriptive. I mean, try imagine the chaos if you rang Control after a collision and told them you were somewhere on the Huddersfield line

 

[Deerfold]

Not really worth an argument. The wording and the link were both included for clarity so I'm sure there was no confusion.

Having travelled for many years in the area and having lived on the Caldervale line for more than 20 I only looked at this link because it appeared to relate to that line.

I've never come across the name the Lancashire and Yorkshire railway called it - it may accurately describe it, but isn't what today's rail companies and PTEs refer to it (on the timetables...).

Perhaps if the title had been "Derailment between Wakefield and Mirfield" there would have been no confusion...

Metro's decriptions have become a little more confusing since Brighouse reopened...

 

[Welshman]

If GC routed via Mirfield, there'd be no need to cut the Brighouse and Mirfield stops, so I guess it will be (Halifax)/Bradford/New Pudsey/Holbeck/Kirkgate. This would avoid reversal in Leeds. I wonder if GC drivers sign this route though?

A couple of services will have operated by now so I wonder if anyone knows the actual route?

Hasn't the first GC service on a Sunday been diverted this way in the past? In other words, Bradford Interchange, New Pudsey, Holbeck, Farnley Engine Shed Junction [reverse], Holbeck, Wakefield Westgate, Wakefield Kirkgate?

Presumably, that's the diversion they used today. When they've been booked that way, there's been a bus from Halifax, Brighouse and Mirfield to Wakefield Kirkgate, but there's no reason why the train could not have been started back from Mirfield, via Brighouse, Halifax etc.