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depot driver vs mainline driver

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Shunter44

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Hi,
im new this and looking to be a train driver myself.

Which do you think is best, depot driver or mainline driver ? and why?
Whats the advantages/disadvantages of both ?

thanks
 
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some toc's have a policy where you can only move into a 'driving link', once you have served a specific amount of time, incident free, as a depot driver.
 

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Abellio Greater Anglia are going to possibly seperate the two. Proposals in this years pay deal may see no line of promotion from depot driver to mainline driver. Applications from depot drivers will need to apply in the same way as others & have no guarantee of getting the position as now.
 

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Is there any company where they are rolled into one job. Ie on all drivers rosters, they may do mainline one day. The next they are in the yard shunting and fuelling etc. Would offer more diversity in both roles. More room for error too maybe
 

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Abellio Greater Anglia are going to possibly seperate the two. Proposals in this years pay deal may see no line of promotion from depot driver to mainline driver. Applications from depot drivers will need to apply in the same way as others & have no guarantee of getting the position as now.

I doubt it will get through.
 

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Is there any company where they are rolled into one job. Ie on all drivers rosters, they may do mainline one day. The next they are in the yard shunting and fuelling etc. Would offer more diversity in both roles. More room for error too maybe

We do main line & depot driving the latter often being booked when spare. We do not however fuel or any other depot work.
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I doubt it will get through.

Money often talks though & those currently in a DDs position will be ring fenced.
 

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I doubt it will get through.

Really? you clearly aren't aware of what one LDC member 'owes' the board, for keeping his own seat last year, :lol: They, the drivers, can only hope it goes to ballot for sure.

however, this is detracting from the OP's original question.
 

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Is there any company where they are rolled into one job. Ie on all drivers rosters, they may do mainline one day. The next they are in the yard shunting and fuelling etc. Would offer more diversity in both roles. More room for error too maybe

I'm in the Thunderbird link for East Coast at Kings Cross and sign 08s as we have booked turns at Bounds Green on the pilot as even though there is a Bounds Green link with 3 drivers it's not enough to cover all the turns there.
 

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Really? you clearly aren't aware of what one LDC member 'owes' the board, for keeping his own seat last year, :lol: They, the drivers, can only hope it goes to ballot for sure.

however, this is detracting from the OP's original question.

It has gone to ballot......
 

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Is there any company where they are rolled into one job. Ie on all drivers rosters, they may do mainline one day. The next they are in the yard shunting and fuelling etc. Would offer more diversity in both roles. More room for error too maybe

Not so much fuelling, etc
But other depot jobs like taking stock back to the depot at the end of the day or picking a train up to begin its day. Some minor movements/coupling in the yard. Also you take tech trains there.
My mate who's on a HSS link loves lates/nights, so usually he does a late run to Bristol and brings it back to old oak common. Depends if your spare then you maybe assigned to the depot for the shift.
 

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I've been a Depot Driver for the last 5 years. I gotta say, it's the best job I've ever had. The money - for what we do - in my opinion is fantastic around the £37k mark. Better than that, depending on your lifestyle choices/family commitments, is the amount of time off we get. Our roster is a dream to work to, 10 days off every month and maximum 9 hour turns of which much is spent unproductive due to the nature of the workload, max 6 day week followed by 3-4 rest days.
If you have young kids then this is the job for you. The neighbours probably think I don't work as my car is nearly always outside as most of my shifts are nightshifts!

I can drive 7 types of traction including Electric diesel stock.
At my depot we carry out heavy maintenance as well as respraying of units meaning the days are a hive of activity and there is always shunt moves to carry out. Always something different to keep you occupied, cant say the same as nights as the work is pretty monotonous, stock comes in, gets de-tanked, washed, birthed. Unless something needs to go on the pit like for having missing shoe gear or dodgy wsp fault etc.

Mainline earn more obviously but in all honestly apart from that and taking into consideration the amount of pressure they're under to not make any mistakes its often assumed due to the gap in pay that Mainline is the preferable option but that's not always the case when you take into consideration what's listed above in my job.

Being based at a depot you often get first hand experience of different projects and testing of stock. You get to see all types of trains coming and going for one reason or another so if trains is your thing then its a great job for that.
Not all depots are the same obviously and the type of work and stock that frequents each depot varies greatly.

With that said I'm actually sitting my Mainline Driver assessment this Friday. After 5 years of learning my craft as a Depot Driver I'm keen to go on and enjoy the next stage of my career but to anyone considering a job as a depot driver I'd highly recommend it. In terms of getting used to the cab environment and learning about everything from Train Preparation to Fault finding it should provide useful to anyone wishing to progress to Mainline.

I'm not a train enthusiast by any means but when you take a look around 'outside' as its termed on the railway, look at the state of the country and how difficult it is to get a decent job and earn a living the you see just how fantastic the role of a depot driver, or shunter even, or a fitter to an extent really is.
Some of the blokes I work with nearing retirement, you'd think they're hard done by and they're being made to turn up every day and clock on, lol. Take a reality check - most jobs on the railway are secure and can lead to better things.

Best of luck with whatever you choose to have a go at :)
 

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Hey pal, sounds like you have the same enthusiasm for depot driving as a former member of this site. Only difference is he thought depot driving was the pinnacle of his career. I'm not saying it's not a good job but he was over defensive to anyone suggesting they preferred mainline. Every role has an important place on the railway and it looks like you've had some good variety Martin. Good luck for the mainline and if you get it it'll be interesting to hear how the new job compares.

Shunter44, I'm not a depot driver but imagine their shift start and finish times are more consistent than mainline where early starts and late finishes can mess with your sleep patterns. If you get stuck behind a broken down train on mainline you could be stranded til it's fixed, but I like the variety of the routes and seeing the seasons change. No 2 days are the same mainline. Hope this helps.
 

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Hello, until a few months ago I was a Depot Driver, and I am now around half way through a mainline course. Depot Driving like people have said is a great job, you do and see a lot of interesting unusual stuff, but I think mot people like me, will get frustrated. 2 years was enough for me, plus depending on the TOC the pay for DD is substantially lower than mainline. (25k vs 43k in my TOC's case) Being a depot driver was described to me when I got the job a being a kind of "driver apprenticehip", which I think is fairly accurate, and it has really helped me get a good understanding of the railway, how it works, how the trains work and what sort of things can go wrong.
My advice is to aim for mainline driving, I can almost guarantee after a few years you'll become frustrated about going at 5mph and will want a bit of a change!
All the best,
 
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