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Delay Repay for travel after a strike day

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Scenario: A passenger was supposed to travel on 3 Feb, but couldn't due to strikes, so travelled on 4th Feb instead.

The train on 4 Feb ran on time. Yet the passenger was delayed by more than 2 hours from the intended travel on the strike day.

The train journey in question can't be found in the delay repay system. Does that mean delay repay is not applicable here?
 
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Scenario: A passenger was supposed to travel on 3 Feb, but couldn't due to strikes, so travelled on 4th Feb instead.

The train on 4 Feb ran on time. Yet the passenger was delayed by more than 2 hours from the intended travel on the strike day.

The train journey in question can't be found in the delay repay system. Does that mean delay repay is not applicable here?
Delay repay is not applicable if the train was cancelled earlier than 2200 the day before, which would be the case during the strike timetable. It’s terrible but it is what it is. You may have other rights under consumer law.
 

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The wording is here confusing - you’ve said they’ve travelled on 4th instead of 3rd but it ran on time.

So why would any Delay Repay be due?
 

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Scenario: A passenger was supposed to travel on 3 Feb, but couldn't due to strikes, so travelled on 4th Feb instead.

The train on 4 Feb ran on time. Yet the passenger was delayed by more than 2 hours from the intended travel on the strike day.

The train journey in question can't be found in the delay repay system. Does that mean delay repay is not applicable here?
The TOCs claim, in the National Rail Conditions of Travel (NRCoT), to exclude Delay Repay or the entitlement to the minimum level of compensation under the NRCoT (50% for a 1+ hour delay) in situations where the train is cancelled by 10pm the night before. It's highly questionable whether this purported exclusion is enforceable, for variuos reasons that have been discussed at length in other threads. However, this doesn't eliminate the entitlement to a minimum level of compensation (50% for a 2+ hour delay) under the Passenger Rights and Obligations Regulation (PRO), which explicitly disallows any attempt by conditions of carriage to limit or exclude rights.

Therefore, if there weren't any services at all on the 3rd, then the passenger would theoretically be entitled to delay compensation (at least at the PRO level) based on the delay by travelling on the first available train on the 4th. I say theoretical because although there may be a legal entitlement to such compensation, any claim that is brought is likely to be rejected, and it's highly likely that you would have to take the TOC to Court to get anything.

The wording is here confusing - you’ve said they’ve travelled on 4th instead of 3rd but it ran on time.

So why would any Delay Repay be due?
Because the passenger has arrived a day later than they booked to arrive, due to their train being cancelled. Ordinarily this would qualify them for Delay Repay, but as above, here it is likely to be an uphill battle getting anything.
 

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Thanks all, I did suspect the rail corporations would be sufficiently insulated, as if the compensation they get from the government for each strike day isn't enough.
 

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Thanks all, I did suspect the rail corporations would be sufficiently insulated, as if the compensation they get from the government for each strike day isn't enough.
They don't specifically get compensation for strikes - the financial arrangements for strike days are exactly the same as those on other days. For "franchised" operators, the basic model at the moment is that they pass over all the revenue they take to the government, and the government pays them all their operating costs plus a fixed management fee, and a variable performance fee. It thus makes little difference to them whether it's a strike day or a normal day; they earn their management fee either way, and it's unlikely to affect their performance fee.

The 10pm "exclusion" was put in place at the behest of the government, in a pathetic attempt to try and limit the amount of Delay Repay that passengers receive due to crew shortages and other late notice cancellations. Hopefully it will soon be scrapped, as it's bang out of order.
 
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