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Robin Procter

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I photographed Class 60 028 in Cappagh livery recently heading down towards Westbury on 15th December. Cappagh own DC Rail and I am told it's a regular run 6Z52 Tytherington - Quainton Railhead. I am also told that Colas are buying some of the red DB Class 60s.

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I am also told that Colas are buying some of the red DB Class 60s.
Hmmm, where's that info from? Is it a reliable source usually?

If I hypothetically take this at face value I'd find it to be an odd move by the company given their original 60s went to GBRf and Colas are about to hire in additional 70s from FL from my understanding (specifically 70009/70019 both being brought back from the dead). So you'd expect a move to purchase 60s would be done due to a significant expansion in operations/contracts which I haven't heard happening at Colas recently

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Great shot btw!
 

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60074 at Peak Forest yesterday during the gales.
 

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Hmmm, where's that info from? Is it a reliable source usually?

If I hypothetically take this at face value I'd find it to be an odd move by the company given their original 60s went to GBRf and Colas are about to hire in additional 70s from FL from my understanding (specifically 70009/70019 both being brought back from the dead). So you'd expect a move to purchase 60s would be done due to a significant expansion in operations/contracts which I haven't heard happening at Colas recently

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Great shot btw!
.... The source is someone who is usually in the know and reliable, and so I have reported this information in good faith. He didn't say it was confidential so I hope it wasn't!! I was told in response to me asking if there would be other opportunities to photograph Class 60s working. However, as is the nature of such matters, a purchase may not actually come to pass but I have sent a message asking how reliable the information is. My source is away from home over Christmas and I am away off grid soon for a few days.

Thank you for the compliment about my photo - Much appreciated :)
 

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So am I right in thinking that we may still have the odd db 60 at the start of 2024?
Yeah, as far as I'm concerned. Whenever we hear about a DB high tractive effort shed getting out and about on the mainline is probably when we'll know their days are almost up. I'm assuming that'll still be in h1 2024 though.
 

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I photographed Class 60 028 in Cappagh livery recently heading down towards Westbury on 15th December. Cappagh own DC Rail and I am told it's a regular run 6Z52 Tytherington - Quainton Railhead. I am also told that Colas are buying some of the red DB Class 60s.
Hmmm, where's that info from? Is it a reliable source usually?

If I hypothetically take this at face value I'd find it to be an odd move by the company given their original 60s went to GBRf and Colas are about to hire in additional 70s from FL from my understanding (specifically 70009/70019 both being brought back from the dead). So you'd expect a move to purchase 60s would be done due to a significant expansion in operations/contracts which I haven't heard happening at Colas recently

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Great shot btw!
.... The source is someone who is usually in the know and reliable, and so I have reported this information in good faith. He didn't say it was confidential so I hope it wasn't!! I was told in response to me asking if there would be other opportunities to photograph Class 60s working. However, as is the nature of such matters, a purchase may not actually come to pass but I have sent a message asking how reliable the information is. My source is away from home over Christmas and I am away off grid soon for a few days.
.... Having now spoken with my source he expanded the information he had given me to say that it should be taken as a distinct possibility rather than a certainty because unless you were in the boardroom when decisions were signed off (which he wasn't), such information could only be speculative even if thought as highly likely.

So we won't know the truth of the matter until it is formally announced, or not.

Meanwhile I am confident I will be told of any planned Class60 movements in my neck of the woods. Others here may also learn the same gen of course.

I hope this helps :s
 

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I understand 60024, 062 and 074 were withdrawn and stored last night. I was going to visit Peak Forest tomorrow for 024 but it sounds like I'm too late. Can anyone confirm this?
 

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I understand 60024, 062 and 074 were withdrawn and stored last night. I was going to visit Peak Forest tomorrow for 024 but it sounds like I'm too late. Can anyone confirm th

I don't know the answer but 074 was on Swindon to Toton on the 11th Jan.
 
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I understand 60024, 062 and 074 were withdrawn and stored last night. I was going to visit Peak Forest tomorrow for 024 but it sounds like I'm too late. Can anyone confirm this?
024 was at Arpley last Saturday when the "Ayr Extension" went past. I believe it is still there awaiting a lift back to Toton
 

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I saw it at Altrincham on Wednesday working to Tunstead but it looks like that was its last trip on tge hoppers.
 

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I understand 60024, 062 and 074 were withdrawn and stored last night. I was going to visit Peak Forest tomorrow for 024 but it sounds like I'm too late. Can anyone confirm this?

It's certainly the view of Class 60 Group facebook
 

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I wonder what's going to get thrown on the Lostock stone moves then in the meantime whilst the high output sheds are developed? Perhaps we could see double heading for a bit?
 

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I wonder what's going to get thrown on the Lostock stone moves then in the meantime whilst the high output sheds are developed? Perhaps we could see double heading for a bit?
I heard from unqualified source, that reduced load with Class 66, or alternative top and tail at some point of the journey? Regardless, one way or another, may increase costs?
 

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I heard from unqualified source, that reduced load with Class 66, or alternative top and tail at some point of the journey? Regardless, one way or another, may increase costs?
66158 on 20 hoppers worked from arpley to peak forest today, 4 down on a 60 I think.
 

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An interesting report on WNXX this morning, it seems that 'an issue' has been found with 062, other than that hideous livery, while it was undergoing a 'B' exam which has caused the stopping of all three 60s, they all currently remain in the operational pool so it may not be the end after all
 

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An interesting report on WNXX this morning, it seems that 'an issue' has been found with 062, other than that hideous livery, while it was undergoing a 'B' exam which has caused the stopping of all three 60s, they all currently remain in the operational pool so it may not be the end after all
Tbf, given the fleet are destined for permanent removal this year, it wouldn't surprise me if DB just didn't bother rectifying this issue on the loco(s) and just kept them out of service
 

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Tbf, given the fleet are destined for permanent removal this year, it wouldn't surprise me if DB just didn't bother rectifying this issue on the loco(s) and just kept them out of service
60024 will have to move at some point as it is currently stuck at Warrington.
60024 WCAT WARRTNARP WARRTNLHS D
60062 WCAT TOTON UP TOTON TMD X
60074 WCAT TOTON TMD TOTON TMD 1 D
 
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