D1000 "Western Enterprise"

[atsf_fT]

Greetings fellow Rail fans
I hope this is the right place to ask ?

One thought that has been in my head now for a many number of years about the Western region class 52s that i cannot seem to find the answer too .

now i know i D1007 / D1055 / D1040 had serious accidents and i have read there full accident reports.

Having read a few books and date files again recently its seems the locos had there far share of accidents has many were logged down to be withdrawn because of "collision damage" related .

But has i see it D1000 is listed has being withdrawn on 02-74 because of also "collision damage"
and scrapped pretty quickly by 31.07.74.? and photos of it in the Swindon scrapyard are hard to find.

( Withdrawn February 1974 after 1,240,000 miles service, due to 'A' end collision damage.)
is about the best i can find.

So my question is does anyone know the reason for the "collision damage" and were it happened .


many thanks

 

[randyrippley]

Reed's book about the hydraulics dates the withdrawal as 11/2/1974 but doesn't give details.
Looks like it was the twelfth to be switched off

remember, by then BR would use trivial excuses to get rid of "non-standard" stock. The damage may have been quite minor

 

[Ash Bridge]

This doesn't really answer your question but the May 1974 edition of The Railway Magazine reports that Class 52 No. 1000 Western Enterprise, the Western rumoured to be scheduled for official preservation has sustained underframe damage in a collision and is now unlikely to be preserved. It was noted in a train of three withdrawn 52s which were hauled from Laira to Bristol Marsh Junction on February 21 1974. Sorry but still no details of the whereabouts of the actual collection mentioned.

Just a thought, but noting that 1000 was being hauled from Laira could this narrow down the possibility that the incident may have took place somewhere in Devon or Cornwall rather than further up country perhaps?

 

[70014IronDuke]

This doesn't really answer your question but the May 1974 edition of The Railway Magazine reports that Class 52 No. 1000 Western Enterprise, the Western rumoured to be scheduled for official preservation has sustained underframe damage in a collision and is now unlikely to be preserved. It was noted in a train of three withdrawn 52s which were hauled from Laira to Bristol Marsh Junction on February 21 1974. Sorry but still no details of the whereabouts of the actual collection mentioned.

Just a thought, but noting that 1000 was being hauled from Laira could this narrow down the possibility that the incident may have took place somewhere in Devon or Cornwall rather than further up country perhaps?

Me thnks you've been up in that loft again, AB. Have you been trying to dodge the gardening again?

 

[atsf_fT]

Thank you for your reply's

Well according to this web page there were 13 ! western locos withdrawn with " collision damage " D1002 with " frame fracture " and besides D1007
there seem to be two more with derailment damage .
One would assume that because there are no accident reports like there are on D1007 - D1040 - D1055 they were not main line related .

There seems to be a lot loco photos including the westerns locos back in the 70s with side swipes and front end damage only a few looking series
perhaps these " collision damage " 1000s were the result of some over enthusiastic shunting at one or more depots ? D1000 being the first of its class at the end of 73 or beginning of 74 i know a shut at 05 mph would do some considerable damage but why so many !











http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/d1000m_in_d1000a.htm

 

[randyrippley]

Thank you for your reply's

Well according to this web page there were 13 ! western locos withdrawn with " collision damage " D1002 with " frame fracture " and besides D1007
there seem to be two more with derailment damage .
One would assume that because there are no accident reports like there are on D1007 - D1040 - D1055 they were not main line related .

There seems to be a lot loco photos including the westerns locos back in the 70s with side swipes and front end damage only a few looking series
perhaps these " collision damage " 1000s were the result of some over enthusiastic shunting at one or more depots ? D1000 being the first of its class at the end of 73 or beginning of 74 i know a shut at 05 mph would do some considerable damage but why so many !
http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/d1000m_in_d1000a.htm

The obvious candidate would be the Merehead stone supertrains.......easy to see how shunting damage could happen there

 

[Ash Bridge]

Me thnks you've been up in that loft again, AB. Have you been trying to dodge the gardening again?

Heck, is it so obvious? Well it did look like it was going to rain so.....

 

[Oscar46016]

There used to be a magazine out called "western courier" - I have some old copies and will take a look when I have time - there maybe something in one of them.

 

[john prytherch]

I think I was for a while a member of the Western Locomotive Association a good many years ago. I recall reading in its journal (was it called Western Courier?) that a number of the class were withdrawn following corrosion (rust from rain ingress) that caused the cabs to droop a bit; and that this was for some reason called "collision damage" although not actually due to any collision. D1000 may have been one of the engines withdrawn for this official reason.


John Prytherch.

 

[Clarence Yard]

Whilst shunting at St Austell on 06/02/74, D1000 hit a BRUTE that had fallen onto the track. It did a fair amount of damage to the end/underneath of A end and after returning to Laira, D1000 was inspected and then withdrawn.

 

[atsf_fT]

Many thanks for all your replys.
So western enterprise was taken out because of a BRUTE.
Well they were very heavy when empty and if it was a loaded BRUTE even worse, i used work at wolvs high level at the red star parcels and ive seen a Brute fall on the track my self luckily The class 86 pulling had fair warning it was there and stopped short of it but it took half a dozen men just move it out the way, i have no idea hpw it back bon the platform they are dam heavy.

Are there any photos of D1000 shiwing the damaged end? To my knowledge ive ive seen one photo of westrn enterpise in the swindon scrap yard and minus its bogies.

 

[Taunton]

If the Brute was run over then there could be a fair abount of damage to the vacuum/air brake connections and underneath pipework, not really any visible body damage but still much work to repair.