Tringonometry
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Someone must have pressed the wrong button when entering the cancellation reason.
There was a fault on one of the coaches.
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Cumbrian Coast Loco Hauled Stock
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There was a fault on one of the coaches.
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Not doing very well today given that the train rolled during boarding at Sellafield this afternoon.
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Loco hauled services on the CC
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/frequently-requested-diagrams-thread.84997/#post-1478562
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/frequently-requested-diagrams-thread.84997/#post-1478562
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Probably an incorrect attribution initially. That's why Level 2 attributors exist. Hardly something to shout about.
It's all correct now.
In any case:
This service was cancelled throughout due to a problem with the overhead line power collection equipment (M1).
Is a perfectly valid reason for cancelling a diesel service - for instance, what if an electric set were sat obstructing the route out of the depot meaning that the diesel set could not get out to form this service...
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Given the the well documented problems with Electrification on the Bolton corridor is it likely that Class 37s (or 68s) will remain on the Cumbrian Coast beyond May 2018 timetable change.
Also if a DMU was to step in for the 05:15 Carlisle starter I thought this service was driven by DRS crew as Carlisle depot (Northern) don't sign the Cumbrian Coast pr has this changed?
Also if a DMU was to step in for the 05:15 Carlisle starter I thought this service was driven by DRS crew as Carlisle depot (Northern) don't sign the Cumbrian Coast pr has this changed?
DRS crews only bring the 05:15 into Carlisle, a Northern driver takes over from there, seen it happen myself.
According to the times now loaded into Open Train Times, the 05:15 from May runs empty to Maryport (from? - no ecs showing at the mo) and starts there. There is however a new 06:16 to BIF that looks like it might be the loco hauled instead. Remember that from May the loco hauleds are supposedly doing 2.5 return trips between CAR and BIF, not going beyond BIF.
ps there's also a 0553 CAR-BIF but that looks like a unit. Perhaps to make the Sellafield worker's early bird more reliable?
According to the times now loaded into Open Train Times, the 05:15 from May runs empty to Maryport (from? - no ecs showing at the mo) and starts there. There is however a new 06:16 to BIF that looks like it might be the loco hauled instead. Remember that from May the loco hauleds are supposedly doing 2.5 return trips between CAR and BIF, not going beyond BIF.
ps there's also a 0553 CAR-BIF but that looks like a unit. Perhaps to make the Sellafield worker's early bird more reliable?
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Seems to be contradictory info about what's happening both at the end of next week and in May, I guess the situation with regard to May might change with Preston Manchester electrification issues.
Had a trip on them yesterday, excellent day weather surprisingly good.
Had a trip on them yesterday, excellent day weather surprisingly good.
There seems to be a lot of conflicting information. I saw on twitter today that one class 37 diagram is moving to class 68 this month. Is it known how much longer the class 37s will remain? I'm keen to do another trip, this time the full length, but hoped it would be the spring.
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Think the 37s are going at the end of this week. I too was hoping to do them in spring but that's bumped up to tomorrow now... The 0736 at Batley it is!
Tringonometry
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That's news to me. Don't think DRS have sufficient drivers yet who sign the route *and* 68s.
However, as both 'first trains of the day' had loco issues* this morning - anything's possible.
*0515CARLAN ran as a unit
*0546BIFCAR cancelled - LHCS set originally for 0515 to be fettled and inserted at Carlisle for the return 0842CARBIF
The unit must of been intended for the 2N04 0630 Carlisle to Newcastle as that had been cancelled.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y51718/2018/01/24/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y51718/2018/01/24/advanced
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Not for the first time, apparently.
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Does that mean the 1003 ex-Preston will be a unit? Showing as a unit on RTT but I know timing loads aren't gospel...
Hope I've not picked the wrong day, I definitely have weather-wise!
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I think you've been bowled. *sadface*
0842CARBIF still awaiting stock as well. At 0915. Not good.
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Hmmm... at least I'm getting some new track in, not that I'm overly fussed about such things... honest!
How much disruption does there need to be for my Cumbrian Coast Day Ranger to qualify for delay repay? Obviously I can't do anything about the stock of course. Oh well, hopefully I'll have better luck in spring for the 68s...
On the plus side, just rounding Farington Curve and it's stopped raining.
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156454.
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Yep, on it now and just left Lancaster...
Seeing as my tractor-bashing isn't happening, any suggestions of any small wayside stations up the coast which have a decent pub nearby?
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Aye, the friendly guard suggested there too. Might go further up the coast though to get my money's worth on my day ranger. May depend on what unit is subbing for the other LHCS set- if it's a Merseytravel Pacer then Foxfield will win a visit from me, but anything else might mean I'll go up to Flimby as there's a pub there with decent reviews.
Comment from elsewhere is that unit will take the other diagram from Barrow, but I guess you will know by now if that's the case or not, I was intending to have a trip up there myself today glad I didn't bother.
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That is indeed the case... Just left Foxfield with barely any veg on board. 37401 looking forlorn in Barrow sidings!
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Hmmmm. If they've regularly used the unit for the Newcastle turn for the 05.15 Barrow when the 37 has played up, it means the 37s are even more unreliable than I'd thought. (Obviously, it doesn't show up on RTT if a unit is substituted.) I bet the good punters between Carlisle - Hexham (in particular) and onwards would be reet peeved to know that their train has been caped due to a Cumbrian Coast LHCS failure. I suppose control just has to make what it thinks is the best decision, with the least number of passengers put out.
61653 really has had a bummer today, with both LHCS sets failing. That's not very common. Maybe some Northern manager will read this thread, takes pity and offer a freebie Day Ranger for another try.
Unless said manager is a Leeds supporter
Yep, on it now and just left Lancaster...
Seeing as my tractor-bashing isn't happening, any suggestions of any small wayside stations up the coast which have a decent pub nearby?
Ratty Arms at Ravenglass is decent too.
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That's where I ended up!
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Well, my trip up to Flimby wasn't a complete waste... got there to find the pub boarded up, and there's literally nothing else there... but what turned up on the next Barrow? Only one of the LHCS sets!
Not sure which 37 is doing the shoving as I had to run to get it, but I'll find out when I get off.
Update. 402 was on the back, sounded in rude health so whatever the issue was, it's been fixed. 401 also ran for the Sellafield rush, passed it at St. Bees.
Not sure which 37 is doing the shoving as I had to run to get it, but I'll find out when I get off.
Update. 402 was on the back, sounded in rude health so whatever the issue was, it's been fixed. 401 also ran for the Sellafield rush, passed it at St. Bees.
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