Cross Country HSTs.

[General Zod]

We were coming into Birmingham New Street yesterday evening at 19.10 on the slightly delayed XC Edinburgh ( dep 14.08 ) - Plymouth service when I noticed a XC HST pulling out. I was just wondering are XC starting to use HSTs again ? It was painted in all the XC livery so I assume that they have brought in quite a few more. Are they being used on specific routes ?

regards,
Z

 

[generalvegitable]

the HSTs are used on the long routes, think about it, if you are going from penzance to dundee you would want a hst because they are more comfortable and they have a buffet unlike the voyagers

 

[87031]

XC091
ECS
5V19 0534 Neville Hill T&RSMD-Leeds Mon-Fri

1V19 0600 Leeds-Plymouth "

1S51 1221 Plymouth-Glasgow Central "

ECS 5S51 2240 Glasgow Central-Craigentinny T&RSMD "


XC092
ECS
5V31 0538 Craigentinny T&RSMD-Edinburgh Waverley Mon-Fri

1V31 0608 Edinburgh Waverley-Plymouth "

1E63 1521 Plymouth-Leeds "

ECS 5E63 2121 Leeds-Neville Hill T&RSMD "


XC093
ECS
5V23 0514 Neville Hill T&RSMD-York Mon-Fri

1V23 0632 York-Plymouth "

1S55 1321 Plymouth-Edinburgh Waverley "

ECS 5S55 2235 Edinburgh Waverley-Craigentinny T&RSMD "


XC094
ECS
5V39 0441 Craigentinny T&RSMD-Dundee Mon-Fri

1V39 0632 Dundee-Plymouth "

1E73 1721 Plymouth-Leeds "

ECS 5E73 2340 Leeds-Neville Hill T&RSMD "

these are the monday to fri diagrams...theres also some sat only summer diagrams as well...incluidiong Manchester/Paignton Manchester/Newquay Newquay/Dundee Newcastle/Penzance

 

[Bayum]

the HSTs are used on the long routes, think about it, if you are going from penzance to dundee you would want a hst because they are more comfortable and they have a buffet unlike the voyagers

I thought they used them on the Edinburgh - Plymouth runs??
And Manchester - Newquay?

 

[generalvegitable]

AFAIK they are hired from nationalised express

 

[Failed Unit]

the HSTs are used on the long routes, think about it, if you are going from penzance to dundee you would want a hst because they are more comfortable and they have a buffet unlike the voyagers

Not on XC they don't the HST has a heating are for 1st class passengers but no buffet. Just the trolley for standard. The comfort level is better than a voyagers unless you don't like the Mallard seats that is. If you want to do Dundee - Penzance in reasonable comfort and don't mind a tube journey go via London. (probably cheaper as well)

 

[Mojo]

these are the monday to fri diagrams...theres also some sat only summer diagrams as well...incluidiong Manchester/Paignton Manchester/Newquay Newquay/Dundee Newcastle/Penzance

Also a Fridays-only diagram:

XC805
5V64 12+43 Craigentinny - Edinburgh
1V64 1308 Edinburgh - Plymouth
5V64 22+09 Plymouth - Laira

Saturdays are:

XC801
5V44 05+34 Neville Hill - Leeds
1V44 0600 Leeds - Plymouth
1S51 1221 Plymouth - Glasgow Central
5S51 22+35 Glasgow Central - Craigentinny

XC802
5V39 05+08 Craigentinny - Glasgow Central
1V54 0700 Glasgow Central - Newquay
2P86 1958 Newquay - Plymouth
5P86 22+34 Plymouth - Laira TMD

XC803
5V47 06+28 Neville Hill - Manchester
1V47 0800 Manchester - Paignton
1M93 1347 Paignton - Manchester
5E93 19+30 Manchester - Neville Hill

XC804
5V48 05+00 Craigentinny - Newcastle
1V48 0642 Newcastle - Penzance
1E75 Penzance - Leeds
5E75 00+01 Leeds - Neville Hill

XC805
[ECS from Laira, don't know time/headcode]
2N00 0630 Plymouth - Newquay
1S47 0930 Newquay - Dundee
5S47 22+02 Dundee - Craigentinny

XC901 (NXEC Set)
5V45 05+13 Neville Hill - Manchester
1V45 0700 Manchester - Newquay
1M70 1520 Newquay - Manchester
5E70 23+07 Manchester - Neville Hill

 

[43034 The Black Horse]

they have a buffet unlike the voyagers

No they don't. Not for pax anyway.

 

[87031]

The longest X-Country run is Aberdeen-Penzance which is a Voyager which seems crazy :roll: Theres a Friday Only Diagram as well 1306 Edinburgh-Plymouth normally a Vomiter Mon-Thu which forms the sat only 0930 Newquay-Dundee. there are 4 Sunday diagrams

0905 Plymouth - Newquay
1130 Newquay - Edinburgh

0809 Leeds - Plymouth
1421 Plymouth - Edinburgh

0900 Leeds - Plymouth
1521 Plymouth - York

0850 Edinburgh - Plymouth
1821 Plymouth - Leeds

 

[Mojo]

There are 4 Sunday diagrams

There are no set Sunday diagrams, they change every week due to engineering works.

 

[87031]

The Newquay and the the 0850 Ex-edinburgh have been consistent cant comment on the other two. These where up until 19th of July but like you say subject to change

 

[mumrar]

There are no set Sunday diagrams, they change every week due to engineering works.

For the last 3 weeks and till end of Sept an HST is booked on 1V50 08.30 Leed-Plymouth on Sunday

 

[Mojo]

For the last 3 weeks and till end of Sept an HST is booked on 1V50 08.30 Leed-Plymouth on Sunday

I think there are a few more booked ones too, but I just wanted to clarify to others that the Sunday diagrams are STC.

 

[2030720310]

What about on the Birmingham to Paignton services? Are any of these HSTs?

 

[tbtc]

If you want to do Dundee - Penzance in reasonable comfort and don't mind a tube journey go via London

Totally agree!

Just because a train goes from Dundee to Penzance doesn't mean there's anyone actually doing the journey from end to end, of course - though a lot of enthusiasts seem to honestly think there's a large demand to get from Norwich/ Scarborough to Liverpool, or from Bedford to Brighton! :roll:

 

[jamesontheroad]

Totally agree!

Just because a train goes from Dundee to Penzance doesn't mean there's anyone actually doing the journey from end to end, of course - though a lot of enthusiasts seem to honestly think there's a large demand to get from Norwich/ Scarborough to Liverpool, or from Bedford to Brighton! :roll:

Not many, but some. My partner had to come back from Plymouth to Glasgow on the cheap and found XC direct cheaper than via London.

She didn't enjoy it, but she did go from one end of the journey to the other!