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To be fair, all the County games are streamed on YouTube which at least allows a few more people to watch.
The County Champonship radio coverage is quite good, and in some cases aligned to a livestream of that match. If only the BBC could also provide commentary of all the Metro Bank One Day Cup games? Sadly only two of the six games played on Tuesday were broadcast through the BBC website. :|
 

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The County Champonship radio coverage is quite good, and in some cases aligned to a livestream of that match. If only the BBC could also provide commentary of all the Metro Bank One Day Cup games? Sadly only two of the six games played on Tuesday were broadcast through the BBC website. :|

They were all on YouTube again however! I appreciate the BBCs support to County Cricket (and it's generally how I follow along as I find Cricinfo increasingly commercial and useless) but the Counties embracing YouTube over Covid really has been transformational to following the sport.

Meant we got to watch Ben Stokes hitting a ton in the red headed stepchild of cricket that is the One Day Cup on the opening day of the Hundred to steal the headlines for at least a little while from the ECBs darling. Which was very pleasant :lol:
 

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They were all on YouTube again however! I appreciate the BBCs support to County Cricket (and it's generally how I follow along as I find Cricinfo increasingly commercial and useless) but the Counties embracing YouTube over Covid really has been transformational to following the sport.

Meant we got to watch Ben Stokes hitting a ton in the red headed stepchild of cricket that is the One Day Cup on the opening day of the Hundred to steal the headlines for at least a little while from the ECBs darling. Which was very pleasant :lol:
This site https://live.nvplay.com/ecb/ is far better for following a county game than cricinfo, and for one-day games often shows the DLS requirement as you go along! Also contains clips of wickets, fours and sixes if you aren't following on youtube.
 

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I see the England men fixtures have been released for next season:


Visits from Australia, Bangla Desh, Pakistan & New Zealand

Noticeably not many fixtures in the North of England, hopefully at least one of these countries will play in Belfast as part of their warm up.
 

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It's a ludicrous programme - Lord's gets three test matches in less than 6 weeks but nothing for Headingley or Old Trafford.
hopefully at least one of these countries will play in Belfast as part of their warm up.
I can't see that anything is scheduled for Belfast or Dublin.
 

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I see the England men fixtures have been released for next season:


Visits from Australia, Bangla Desh, Pakistan & New Zealand

Noticeably not many fixtures in the North of England, hopefully at least one of these countries will play in Belfast as part of their warm up.

The ECB really is completely unfit for purpose. How can you have a home ashes series and not play at either headingley or old trafford?
 

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How can you have a home ashes series and not play at either headingley or old trafford?
To be fair, this isn't news - it was announced three years ago which grounds would be used for the 2027 Ashes, and those for 2031 were announced at the same time (Edgbaston misses out then).
 

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To be fair, this isn't news - it was announced three years ago which grounds would be used for the 2027 Ashes, and those for 2031 were announced at the same time (Edgbaston misses out then).

Oh yes, not new news, but it doesn't make it any more palatable.

The point is that they seem to think Lord's and the Oval are both untouchable. Lord's probably should be, because of its history and the importance the opposing sides place on it, but the Oval is just another test ground and should take its place in the rotation like everywhere else.

Back in the day, Ashes series were six tests, and to be honest I'm a bit surprised they haven't pushed for this. Perhaps even Sky / the ECB realise the calendar is a little cramped nowadays.
 

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they seem to think Lord's and the Oval are both untouchable. Lord's probably should be,
I don't think that Lord's should be untouchable to the extent of staging 3 test matches in just over a month. Although if this summer's Lord's test is anything to go by they'll be lucky to get 10 days play over those three matches.
Back in the day, Ashes series were six tests, and to be honest I'm a bit surprised they haven't pushed for this. Perhaps even Sky / the ECB realise the calendar is a little cramped nowadays.
There's a strong possibility that Australia will be playing 6 tests during their visit to these shores. It's just that one will be the World Test Championship, and England won't be their opponents!
 

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The north Doesn't finish at Leeds - We only get 1 ODI and 1 T20 at Durham. Shocking.
Yeah we normally get a Women's international (I know not everyone's cup of tea) to at least get three internationals a season but next year because of the Women's Ashes we also miss out on that so just two international fixtures.

To be honest it's just a reminder that the ECB only really give a stuff about Cricket in the South and particularly the South East. I reckon they'd be much happier if they could just ditch every ground other than the Oval, Lords, Edgbaston, Trent Bridge and the Rose Bowl. Give them time and they probably will seeing as they've snubbed both Old Trafford and Headingley this time out.
 

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Yeah we normally get a Women's international (I know not everyone's cup of tea) to at least get three internationals a season but next year because of the Women's Ashes we also miss out on that so just two international fixtures.

To be honest it's just a reminder that the ECB only really give a stuff about Cricket in the South and particularly the South East. I reckon they'd be much happier if they could just ditch every ground other than the Oval, Lords, Edgbaston, Trent Bridge and the Rose Bowl. Give them time and they probably will seeing as they've snubbed both Old Trafford and Headingley this time out.
yeah pretty much so.

I do enjoy watching the women's cricket - the double header T20s have been a great day out.
 

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I do enjoy watching the women's cricket - the double header T20s have been a great day out.
Oh same, I didn't make it to any of the women's side of the double headers this year but I did get to the international which was a good day out and I'll probably go to the Women's test at Headingley next year.
 

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To be honest it's just a reminder that the ECB only really give a stuff about Cricket in the South and particularly the South East. I reckon they'd be much happier if they could just ditch every ground other than the Oval, Lords, Edgbaston, Trent Bridge and the Rose Bowl. Give them time and they probably will seeing as they've snubbed both Old Trafford and Headingley this time out.
Maybe that xenophobic ECB decision-making is just the type that Andy Burnham is striving to end...<D<D
 

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Pretty poor schedule for 2027 for the north of England with limited tests at Old Trafford, Headingley & Durham, should have been spread out better by including these grounds more
 

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Pretty poor schedule for 2027 for the north of England with limited tests at Old Trafford, Headingley & Durham, should have been spread out better by including these grounds more
'Limited' is doing a remarkable amount of heavy lifting there
 

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Away from the ECB, and their shenanigans, we have this from.the Aussies. o_O
Cricket Australia chief executive Todd Greenberg told BBC Sport the prospect of taking international cricket's most storied - and marketable - Test rivalry to India should be on the table.

A non-Ashes fixture of this nature would need buy-in from both the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) and the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI).
 

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Away from the ECB, and their shenanigans, we have this from.the Aussies. o_O
I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea, growing the market for Test cricket in the worlds largest cricket market is surely a good thing for the best format of the game. But it would need to be a one-off Test outside of the regular Ashes sequence for me (a bit like the Test planned in Melbourne next year to celebrate 150 years since the first Test between England and Australia). It would be madness if it was part of an Ashes series!

That being said I'm not completely convinced that your average Indian fan is going to be all that entranced by a match that doesn't involve any Indian players...
 

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I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea, growing the market for Test cricket in the worlds largest cricket market is surely a good thing for the best format of the game. But it would need to be a one-off Test outside of the regular Ashes sequence for me (a bit like the Test planned in Melbourne next year to celebrate 150 years since the first Test between England and Australia). It would be madness if it was part of an Ashes series!

That being said I'm not completely convinced that your average Indian fan is going to be all that entranced by a match that doesn't involve any Indian players...
Indian test cricket grounds don't fill up even for test matches involving the home side, so I struggle to see what would be achieved by playing an England v Australia test in India. Financially, ticket prices would be so low that no real money would be made and it's of no great benefit for TV coverage in either country (OK, good for TV in India, but how many would watch?). And as for the guff about growing global appeal, wouldn't it be better to look to new markets?
 

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Indian test cricket grounds don't fill up even for test matches involving the home side, so I struggle to see what would be achieved by playing an England v Australia test in India. Financially, ticket prices would be so low that no real money would be made and it's of no great benefit for TV coverage in either country (OK, good for TV in India, but how many would watch?). And as for the guff about growing global appeal, wouldn't it be better to look to new markets?
As we all know the (B)ICC controls international cricket, and the rest of the main cricket boards merely brown tongue them for attention. We've seen this investment more recently with the Hundred. However, that cash injection hasn't necessarily increased the popularity or attendances at these type of games.

As for Indian support, yes they can be fervent, but equally lacking especially when their team is losing; check out the recent tour of Ireland and England. So fans can be fickle and that can then affect revenue streams for the respective cricket boards.

However, back to your point about playing a one-off test in India. I agree, the stadiums won't be full, though the cheap prices will attract some neutral supporters, but it won't increase revenue that much. As you suggest the administrators should expand their global market. After all, there is sufficient cricket played in many countries these days, but it needs that global support.
 

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Indian test cricket grounds don't fill up even for test matches involving the home side, so I struggle to see what would be achieved by playing an England v Australia test in India. Financially, ticket prices would be so low that no real money would be made and it's of no great benefit for TV coverage in either country (OK, good for TV in India, but how many would watch?). And as for the guff about growing global appeal, wouldn't it be better to look to new markets?
Absolutely, whilst I'm not instantly opposed to the idea in the broad sense (as long as it's a special one-off not part of an actual Ashes series!!). I really don't see how it actually achieves the goals stated however.
As for Indian support, yes they can be fervent, but equally lacking especially when their team is losing; check out the recent tour of Ireland and England.
In fairness they were in tremendous voice at Durham for the IT20 there a month or so ago. It almost felt like they were the home crowd at some points they were so noisy. Made for a fantastic atmosphere. Though it was also quite amusing that when England scored in the football (as there was a World Cup match at the same time) cheers rang out from those same Indian supporters for that as well :lol:
What price range would be expected for both return airline travel from England to India plus hotel accomodation to cover the full expected matchtime period for cricket supporters of the England cricket team for such a Test Match.
How long is a piece of string? It would be impossible to calculate such a range due the variety of operators that fly between the UK and India (as well as interchange opportunties in places like Amsterdam, Frankfurt and the UAE) along with the range of hotel accommodations in a large Indian city. Quite a lot of research would be required or the services of a travel agency if someone wished to avoid doing their own legwork.
 

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What price range would be expected for both return airline travel from England to India plus hotel accomodation to cover the full expected matchtime period for cricket supporters of the England cricket team for such a Test Match.
Compared to the price of watching all 5 days of a home test, with travel and accomodation thrown in, going to India could easily be cheaper.

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It would be impossible to calculate such a range due the variety of operators that fly between the UK and India (as well as interchange opportunties in places like Amsterdam, Frankfurt and the UAE) along with the range of hotel accommodations in a large Indian city. Quite a lot of research would be required or the services of a travel agency if someone wished to avoid doing their own legwork.
It really isn't that difficult. I've done quite a few overseas trips for cricket and mostly booked the various parts myself.
 

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Compared to the price of watching all 5 days of a home test, with travel and accomodation thrown in, going to India could easily be cheaper.

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It really isn't that difficult. I've done quite a few overseas trips for cricket and mostly booked the various parts myself.

Same, aye. Sri Lanka and all sorts. Having a mate that worked for HSBC in Colombo helped with the ticket costs, of course :lol: Think we paid 25p for a T20 World Cup T20 game in Kandy -- our 'seats' were described as being a spot on a grassy knoll :D
 

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I see the England men fixtures have been released for next season:


Visits from Australia, Bangla Desh, Pakistan & New Zealand

Noticeably not many fixtures in the North of England, hopefully at least one of these countries will play in Belfast as part of their warm up.
I am very tempted to put in for the ballot for Lords
 

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Well Stephen Fleming is the new England coach, another New Zealander and Joe Root returns as England captain. He's unproven at test level but the ECB obviously think he's the best candidate for the job, we shall see.
 

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Well Stephen Fleming is the new England coach, another New Zealander and Joe Root returns as England captain. He's unproven at test level but the ECB obviously think he's the best candidate for the job, we shall see.
Whereas Root is proven as a clueless captain, with his batting suffering as well.
 

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