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Unfortunately, Nottinghamshire's Luke Fletcher has been ruled out for the rest of the season, this could be remedied by the return of Mark Footitt, he signed for Surrey in October 2015, but never settled with his family still being up North.
 
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Second Test Match...Day Two

South Africa were all out for 336 in their first innings, after being 309-6 at one time.

Anderson cleared out the tail and finished with figures of 21.2-6-72-5

England at the tea interval were 184-6 in their first innings in reply with all of their first six in the batting order dismissed.
 

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After the tea interval, England slowly moved on to 199-6 then another late batting collapse saw the final four wickets falling and England were all out for 205.

South Africa, in their second innings, lost an early wicket to Anderson, but then consolidated matters to finish at 75-1 at close of play with an overall lead of 205 runs.

Day three of this Test Match should be "interesting".
 

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After the tea interval, England slowly moved on to 199-6 then another late batting collapse saw the final four wickets falling and England were all out for 205.

South Africa, in their second innings, lost an early wicket to Anderson, but then consolidated matters to finish at 75-1 at close of play with an overall lead of 205 runs.

Day three of this Test Match should be "interesting".

Will be watching Lancs T20 live and the test on the screens in the Pavillion at Old Trafford tomorrow. It will, indeed, be interesting......
 

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Will be watching Lancs T20 live and the test on the screens in the Pavillion at Old Trafford tomorrow. It will, indeed, be interesting......

Three days left and SA are 200+ in the lead for one - they could be setting England 550 with two days to get them.

If England were set 500, what would the odds be to win by 10 wickets <D

Meanwhile, as you say, the Mighty are at home again on the Mudbath and let's hope we can deal with Derbys who we have had problems with in the past
 
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Lunch taken on day three of the Test Match saw South Africa progressing well with a chance on going through the session without losing a wicket, but they lost two wickets towards the end of the session to go from 151-1 to the lunch score of 160-3.

Elgar c Anderson b Stokes...........80
de Kock c Bairstow b Anderson......1
 

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Lovely day in the afternoon sun at Old Trafford, what a difference two days makes to the weather!

Some challenge for England tomorrow. Rain anyone?
 

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Poor show by England. No idea how to occupy the crease or eat up time and seemed to me that they just gave up when the 2020 inspired bish bash bosh plan failed.
 

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Poor show by England. No idea how to occupy the crease or eat up time and seemed to me that they just gave up when the 2020 inspired bish bash bosh plan failed.

It was bad enough to have been 122-5, but then to succumb to 133 all out is very poor indeed.

The margin of the South African win by 340 runs should be a salutary warning to the England team management.
 

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It was bad enough to have been 122-5, but then to succumb to 133 all out is very poor indeed.

The margin of the South African win by 340 runs should be a salutary warning to the England team management.

First of all, why pick two spinners at Trent Bridge (I'm being generous in describing Dawson as such, rather than just a slow bowler)? The Times quoted an MCC member at Lords during the first Test, a portly, florid-faced individual: 'If Dawson is a test player, I'm a Brazilian fashion model' and that just about sums it up!

If Balance is to continue, he has to move down to 5 and, I'm afraid, Keaton Jennings has been found wanting, despite that ton in his first test. Whether Stoneman is the solution I have doubts, particularly as he's another left hander, but he seems next in line.
 

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On a happier note, England are through to the final of the women's world cup after beating South Africa by two wickets.
 

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Gary Ballance is out of the next Test Match, Trevor Bayliss is interested in Mark Stoneman or Tom Westley to replace him.
 
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First of all, why pick two spinners at Trent Bridge (I'm being generous in describing Dawson as such, rather than just a slow bowler)? The Times quoted an MCC member at Lords during the first Test, a portly, florid-faced individual: 'If Dawson is a test player, I'm a Brazilian fashion model' and that just about sums it up!

If Balance is to continue, he has to move down to 5 and, I'm afraid, Keaton Jennings has been found wanting, despite that ton in his first test. Whether Stoneman is the solution I have doubts, particularly as he's another left hander, but he seems next in line.

After the euphoria of Lord's, It was decided almost immediately to keep the same "brilliant" team. No consideration of the difference in the wicket, just "let's keep the boys together". The problem with the England side these days is that the players think that they are playing "for the boys in the dressing room" rather than playing for their country. After scoring a fifty or hundred the first thing they do is acknowledge the dressing room rather than the crowd. All this "team spirit" stuff is nonsense, cricket, especially batting, is an individual activity and we need people who play for their own pride rather than "for the boys". The problem with the game these days is that, thanks to central contracts and the ridiculous test schedule, players never get to play for their counties and so we have the close knit test team which, once you've got in and become "one of the boys" it seems is difficult to get out of.
 

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I've just been looking at a T20 county match scorecard being played tonight. Had to pinch myself - Kevin Pietersen top scoring for Surrey and then Kumar Sangakarra executing a stumping! Was I suddenly back in 2009?!
 

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Reflections on the selection of England's test team:-

Three debutants aged 28 or over, the first time since 1948 in the same test.
Surprisingly, Toby Roland-Jones is the first double-barrelled England cricketer since 1935, when 'Mandy' Mitchell-Innes played just one test, against SA as it happens.
Vic Marks reckons Tom Westley is the only Cambridge-born England cricketer other than Jack Hobbs, so huge footsteps to follow in! Hobbs incidentally scored 197 First Class centuries, which far transcends any other player.
 

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Jennings has had a technique flaw cruelly exposed and without a good second innings score must be finished - Sadly as he is a Durham man

Malan got an absolute snorter off Rabada. It was a fast in swinging, dipping, toe crunching yorker - no shame in his ending.

Westley looked decent enough in getting 25. He seemed to be leaving it well but did get straightened up on giving up his wicket.

Root went to a very good catch from De Kock but Cook is still there playing a proper, backs to the walls, defensive test innings. If he can occupy the crease and get some back up from the rest we could still post a decent score.
 

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With S.A. at 48-5, is Toby Roland-Jones about to do a Devon Malcolm? He has 4 wickets for 20 runs currently, on debut.
 

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Day 3 of the Test Match saw the last two South African wickets fall early in the first session and South Africa scored 175 all out, which seemed a long way from being a position of 61-7, with the last three wickets adding 114 runs.
Roland-Jones......16.4 - 4 - 57 - 5
Anderson............. 13 - 6 - 25 - 3
 

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40 years ago yesterday Ian Botham took a five-for against Australia on his test debut, so Toby Roland-Jones is in good company.
 

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Moeen takes the final three wickets to fall with a hat-trick.

South Africa all out for 252. England win by 239 runs.

If Mooen can do that, imagine if England's no.1 spin bowler (according to Trevor Bayliss) Liam Dawson plays at Old Trafford - Jim Laker's record of 19 wickets in a test achieved there in 1956 (the first test I remember) could be at risk.:lol::lol:
 

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I wonder what type of wicket will be there for that next Test Match?

Wet and sticky if the forecast is to be believed and they are slow with the hover cover!

If Mooen can do that, imagine if England's no.1 spin bowler (according to Trevor Bayliss) Liam Dawson plays at Old Trafford - Jim Laker's record of 19 wickets in a test achieved there in 1956 (the first test I remember) could be at risk.:lol::lol:

Now in the 13 man squad (http://www.lccc.co.uk/cricket/news/2017-news/england-name-squad-for-emirates-old-trafford-test/)

Joe Root (Yorkshire, captain)
Moeen Ali (Worcestershire)
James Anderson (Lancashire)
Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire)
Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire)
Alastair Cook (Essex)
Liam Dawson (Hampshire)
Steven Finn (Middlesex)
Keaton Jennings (Durham)
Dawid Malan (Middlesex)
Toby Roland-Jones (Middlesex)
Ben Stokes (Durham)
Tom Westley (Essex)
 

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