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[yoyothehobo]

England lose by an innings incoming...

 

[Pakenhamtrain]

Been a real average day batting by Australia. Just throwing wickets away.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

At close of play on day 1, Australia were 326-8 from 83 overs bowled
Carey 106 with 1 x 6 and 8 x 4 their top scorer

Archer 16 - 5 - 29 - 3... a good bowling return

Starc is still there, already on 33 not out...

 

[Falcon1200]

Been a real average day batting by Australia. Just throwing wickets away.

Yes, but we haven't seen England bat yet!

 

[DelW]

Let's hope it's closer than the last couple, personally I think it will be, I don't think Pat Cummins will last the whole game, and surely England can't Bat, Bowl and Field as badly again?

You've not been following England cricket for long then?

 

[Mikey C]

A Snicko operator error cost England a review and gave Carey an lifeline on 72.

"Same old Aussies, always cheating"

 

[DelW]

A Snicko operator error cost England a review and gave Carey an lifeline on 72.

"Same old Aussies, always cheating"

The BBC report gives more details:

The Ashes 2025-26: Australia's Alex Carey reprieved by Snicko operator error

The company that owns the Snicko technology takes "full responsibility" for the error that reprieved Australia wicketkeeper Alex Carey on day one of the third Ashes Test.

www.bbc.co.uk

Alex Carey's controversial reprieve on the first day of the third Ashes Test was down to an error by the operator of the Snicko technology.

Carey admitted he edged a delivery from England pace bowler Josh Tongue that was caught by Jamie Smith when the Australia wicketkeeper had 72.

Carey went on to make 106 in Australia's 326-8 at the Adelaide Oval.

BBG Sports, the company that owns Snicko, has accepted culpability for the mistake.

"Given that Alex Carey admitted he had hit the ball in question, the only conclusion that can be drawn from this, is that the Snicko operator at the time must have selected the incorrect stump mic for audio processing," BBG told BBC Sport.

"In light of this, BBG Sports takes full responsibility for the error."

It is understood the sound used for the review was taken from the stump microphone at the bowlers' end, rather than the strikers' end.

This caused a discrepancy between the pictures and sound wave shown to TV umpire Chris Gaffaney.

This might become highly controversial, in the event that England fall short by less than 34 runs in the final innings. It's also likely to make Carey even more of a hate figure for England supporters than he was already, as a result of his running out Bairstow at the non-strikers end in the 2023 Ashes.

Carey's admission that he knew he hit the ball also emphasises the hypocrisy of Darren Lehmann's orchestrated hate campaign against Stuart Broad for not walking after edging a ball but being given not out in the 2013 Ashes. (Not that that was in doubt, since Brad Haddin edged a catch in the same match and tried to overturn the correctly-given decision that he was out.) Sadly the despicable Lehmann is now commentating for ABC.

 

[75A]

You've not been following England cricket for long then?

The first game I saw was the 1967 Kent / Zomerset Gillette Cup Final @ Lords.
My Fathers Cousin was Brian Luckhurst of Kent & England.

 

[DelW]

The first game I saw was the 1967 Kent / Zomerset Gillette Cup Final @ Lords.
My Fathers Cousin was Brian Luckhurst of Kent & England.

Ah, I remember him playing, nice family connection.

I thought you'd probably been watching a long while, hence the emojis to show it wasn't a serious question.

 

[Falcon1200]

Makes a change from sandpapering the ball I suppose.

 

[Trackman]

A Snicko operator error cost England a review and gave Carey an lifeline on 72.

"Same old Aussies, always cheating"

Has this ever happened before- Snicko error with wrong stump mic?

 

[75A]

Ah, I remember him playing, nice family connection.

I thought you'd probably been watching a long while, hence the emojis to show it wasn't a serious question.

That's exactly how I took it.

I've played on tour in the Caribbean and seen a Sheffield Shield game in Australia and India play South Afrika in Bangalore but only ever seen England play @ Lords & the Oval and that would have been in the 1980's & 90's.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Early break-through on Day 2 as Starc was bowled by Archer...but not before he had made 54. then Lyon lbw to Archer for 9.

Australia 371 all out in 91.2 overs.

Archer...20.2 - 5 - 53 - 5.

 

[Pakenhamtrain]

For what it's worth on the Carey DRS thing. He didn't actually hit it.

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For England it could be a lot worse.

New Zealand are currently 0/291 against West Indies.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Day 2 sees the usual England 1st innings collapse and after only 54 overs, they are 168-8, with Carey holding five catches.

No England batsman scored as many as Starc did when he batted.

 

[Pakenhamtrain]

Bloody hard work out there in the middle. Was 40c with 17% humidity.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Day 2 ended with England 213-8 after 58 overs with Stokes 45 not out and Archer 30 not out at the crease.

 

[JD2168]

It has to be questionable whether Snicko can or will be used for the next Test as other systems are available after the issues during this match in particular

 

[Haywain]

other systems are available

Such as?

 

[SuspectUsual]

Such as?

The Aussies are the only country to use Snicko. Everyone else uses another one, whose name eludes me but it’s some initials

 

[scragend]

The Aussies are the only country to use Snicko. Everyone else uses another one, whose name eludes me but it’s some initials

New Zealand uses Snicko (Real Time Snickometer, to give it its full name, or RTS) as well. It's currently being used in the series against West Indies. Most if not all the other countries use Ultra Edge.

They are the only two systems approved by the ICC. Snicko is apparently cheaper.

I don't know how feasible (contractually or logistically) it would be to switch systems within the same series, even if they wanted to.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Day 3 sees England move on to 274-9 with Stokes falling for 83 after he and Archer participated in a stand of 106

Hope Archer gets a 50.

 

[Pakenhamtrain]

The slow brutal death of BazBall is currently occurring at the Adelaide Oval.

BazBall is currently on life support and may not make it

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

England lose by an innings incoming...

Well. that prediction was a tad off line.

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The slow brutal death of BazBall is currently occurring at the Adelaide Oval.

BazBall is currently on life support and may not make it

On Day 3, Australia at one stage were 149-4 in their second innings and then Head with 142 not out and Carey 52 not out had an unbroken stand of 122 to take Australia to 271-4 at close of play, giving them a lead of 356 runs.

 

[DelW]

England lose by an innings incoming...

Well. that prediction was a tad off line.

Australia rather scuppered it, by winning the toss and choosing to bat, meaning England would have had to follow on to lose by an innings.

It wasn't too far away, we were eight wickets down at the follow on score, though eventually the Stokes - Archer partnership took us well beyond. Australia probably wouldn't have enforced it though, it was very hot to bowl through two successive innings.

There's realistically zero chance of avoiding 3 - 0 down now. England do have a habit of winning a match once a series is lost, so 4 - 1 is on the cards, 3 - 2 pretty unlikely in my opinion.

 

[Pakenhamtrain]

Well. that prediction was a tad off line.

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On Day 3, Australia at one stage were 149-4 in their second innings and then Head with 142 not out and Carey 52 not out had an unbroken stand of 122 to take Australia to 271-4 at close of play, giving them a lead of 356 runs.

It was a bit concerning early in the day with the last two wickets taking nearly the whole session to get.

I expect Australia to show exactly zero mercy tomorrow.

 

[Mikey C]

There's realistically zero chance of avoiding 3 - 0 down now. England do have a habit of winning a match once a series is lost, so 4 - 1 is on the cards, 3 - 2 pretty unlikely in my opinion.

In recent tours down under, we haven't even managed a consolation win. 17/18 and 21/22 were 4-0 defeats, while 13/14 was 5-0.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

It was good to see lower-order batsmen, such as Starc and Archer batting with more aplomb than some of their more recognised team-mates in the team for their batting ability.

 

[DelW]

It was good to see lower-order batsmen, such as Starc and Archer batting with more aplomb than some of their more recognised team-mates in the team for their batting ability.

Per the TMS commentary earlier, Jofra Archer has England's second highest series batting average, behind only Joe Root. Looking at Cricinfo, Mitchell Starc is fourth on the Australian list but is still ahead of all the England players.

 

[778]

In recent tours down under, we haven't even managed a consolation win. 17/18 and 21/22 were 4-0 defeats, while 13/14 was 5-0.

Would the Australian teams of the 90s and 00s (Warne, Mcgrath etc) beat this England team even more easily than they did the England teams of that era?

The standard of test cricket seems to have gone downhill since the 2000s.