Crewe disruption 29/11

[uww11x]

#VTNEW Due to damage to the overhead electric wires at Crewe some lines towards North-bound are disrupted.

 

[daikilo]

NR is saying that Chester line services are stopped and Liverpools affected. Sounds like a local issue around the Chester line junction even if Chesters are not electric.

 

[uww11x]

#VTUPDATE Coaches have been ordered to run between Crewe and Chester

 

[mikemcniven]

350 has snapped it's pantograph, for Railcam users it's on Crewe Cam 2. Right outside Crewe Heritage Centre North Signal Box blocking access to the Chester lines.

1F53 involved

Another 350 reporting as 1Z99 is enroute to assist

 

[Domh245]

Train involved was 1F53 1736 Birmingham New Street - Liverpool Lime Street, and it was caught on camera (by railcam.uk)

 

[uww11x]

CREDIT RAILCAM-

 

[SpacePhoenix]

Would the first indication for the driver that something's wrong be something like a power supply loss alarm on the TMS?

 

[Darandio]

Would the first indication for the driver that something's wrong be something like a power supply loss alarm on the TMS?

In this particular case I think the first indication was the shower of sparks all over the windscreen.

 

[driver9000]

Would the first indication for the driver that something's wrong be something like a power supply loss alarm on the TMS?

Apart from the shower of sparks, the VCB lamp will illuminate and an ADD alert will come up on the TMS screen on a red background. The Line light will also go out.

 

[LeylandLen]

1. I am led to believe the unit number on disgraced 350 is 350370

 

[causton]

1. I am led to believe the unit number on disgraced 350 is 350370

350376 according to the updates - assuming they are correct!

 

[AndrewE]

Apart from the shower of sparks, the VCB lamp will illuminate and an ADD alert will come up on the TMS screen on a red background. The Line light will also go out.

I'm surprised how far ahead of the pantograph the sparks seemed to be, also that the unit seemed to coast to a stand rather than stopping quickly.

 

[43096]

1. I am led to believe the unit number on disgraced 350 is 350370

Why "disgraced"? Could be - indeed, more likely to be - NR's overhead or an object in/on the overhead.

 

[sufian123]

Why "disgraced"? Could be - indeed, more likely to be - NR's overhead or an object in/on the overhead.

It’s believed to be 350376

 

[ChiefPlanner]

Seems to be flagged as an "I" code .....Infrastructure fault. This could change of course.

 

[LeylandLen]

Why "disgraced"? Could be - indeed, more likely to be - NR's overhead or an object in/on the overhead.

I was looking at it from the paying passengers point of view.The train let them down.To them it failed .

 

[AndrewE]

Seems to be flagged as an "I" code .....Infrastructure fault. This could change of course.

Any update on this? It was sorted quite quickly, as there seemed to be no delays after the middle of the morning after.

 

[GB]

I'm surprised how far ahead of the pantograph the sparks seemed to be, also that the unit seemed to coast to a stand rather than stopping quickly.

The sparks may not have come from the pantograph. It may have been a cable hanging which struck the front of the train then got tangled in the pantograph. Or it may have just been a camera illusion.

 

[craigybagel]

Any update on this? It was sorted quite quickly, as there seemed to be no delays after the middle of the morning after.

Not quite sorted - electric trains still don't have access to Platform 11 from the north end.

 

[notlob.divad]

The sparks may not have come from the pantograph. It may have been a cable hanging which struck the front of the train then got tangled in the pantograph. Or it may have just been a camera illusion.

Or the pantograph bringing down the OHLE which then shorts on the train roof. The sparks will originate from the point where the distance is too small for the voltage potential. As the pantograph is at 25kv it won't cause a big flashover like that. The grounded train body on the other hand will.

 

[QueensCurve]

Train involved was 1F53 1736 Birmingham New Street - Liverpool Lime Street, and it was caught on camera (by railcam.uk)

Ouch.

 

[mikemcniven]

Not quite sorted - electric trains still don't have access to Platform 11 from the north end.

Caused me an issue last night as the LM liverpool service was routed into P6 as a result, so my train from Chester (VT to Euston) got held close to the Railway Heritage Centre until P11 became free to allow us to enter the station, ended up been held for around 5 minutes outside the station, which was annoying.