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Having read and enjoyed the various trip reports in this section, I thought it was about time I contributed.

Being based in the Thames Valley, I've seen and travelled on all of the FGW Thames Turbo units (165s and 166s), but having finally got my mileage logs up to date I noticed a big variation in how far I had travelled on each unit - some are well above 150, whilst the lowest (165134) was only 19 miles. I therefore took the opportunity of a few free days to try and track down specific units and see how far I could travel on them to try and bring them up to the 100 mile mark.


Day 1 - Thursday 9th July
You might think it a bad idea to plan a bash during the FGW strike, but I was convinced there would be more Turbos out and about. A quick check on Real Time Trains the previous evening showed several semi fasts between Paddington and Oxford being formed of Turbos instead of the more usual HSTs or 180s, and of course with less intercity services running between Paddington and Reading, they'd be looking to run 5 or 6 cars on the local services right ???

I head off to my local station at Taplow in good time for the 09:49 service to Reading. I purchase a 3 Day Thames Rover, then head over to platform 3 to await the arrival of what I hope will be the first of 26 units I'm trying to track down.

As the train pulls into the platform I can see it's 165113, not one of the units I'm after. So I alight at the next station (Maidenhead) and wait to see what might turn up. With 4 trains per hour in each direction, I hope it's not a long wait. The next train to arrive is the 10:04 to Oxford, with 165110 on the front and an unknown 2 car unit on the rear. I quickly make my way down the platform and lucky for me it's a required unit in the shape of 165120. I hop on board and begin to figure out how far down the line I need to travel before bailing off. As it turns out I'm going to be staying on-board all the way to Oxford to clear this unit for 100 miles.

As we head out of Reading, I have a glance at the "new" depot to see if any of my required units are stabled there. Unfortunately for me, there are long lines of units parked up doing nothing, including at least 6 of the 2 car 165s which I'm after. I also spot both of the 150/0s which normally trundle between Reading and Basingstoke, which means there's a 165/166 on that route today - possibly good news for me later on in the day.

At Didcot I spot 66012, 66130, 66172, 66540 & 67012 in and around the stabling point or passing through on freights. Then as we go past Hinksey Yard I spot 67003 and 70805.

We arrive at Oxford at 11:20, so I head over the footbridge to see what is working the regular shuttle to Banbury. Dud 165127 is parked in the bay platform, so I'm looking to head south again on whatever FGW can provide. Dud 166221 will be forming the 11:31 (semi fast) to Paddington, whilst 165120 appears to be forming the 11:37 stopper back to Paddington. Both services are delayed leaving the stabling point, looks like freight trains are being pathed in front of them, so I watch 66730 & 70020 pass through before deciding to take dud 166221 (which departs 14 minutes late) back as far as Reading.

I get back to Reading at 12:08 and then have to decide where to head next. Required 166214 is on the hourly shuttle service to Newbury, whilst required 166211 is on the 12:18 to Paddington. I decide to head to Paddington, since the 36 miles will enable me to clear 166211 for 100 miles, and I know I can get 166214 later on in the day. So off we go, with the intention of grabbing a spot of lunch at Paddington, then seeing what's working the next semi fast to Oxford, or perhaps a Bedwyn service which will run fast to Reading. As we reach Maidenhead I spot 165128 on the Bourne End branch line services. It's a required unit, but do I want to spend around 90 minutes later on in the day making 2 round trips... not this time :)

Arrival into Paddington is 3 minutes late at 13:20, so I've missed the Bedwyn and Oxford trains. Best I head to platform 1, grab a "McLunch" and plan my next set of moves. 30 minutes later I'm hopping aboard dud 166206 for the 13:50 service to Oxford, with the intention of bailing off at Slough to see what turns up next.

Slough is reached at 14:07 and since were are on platform 2, I can easily check which unit's working the shuttle to Windsor & Eton Central. It's dud 165125, so I decide to hop onto dud 166217 forming the 14:14 to Paddington and go as far as Hayes & Harlington. My hope is that required 165102 (which I saw heading into Paddington whilst I was on the 13:50 to Oxford) is working a local stopping service to either Reading or Oxford, both of which stop at H&H. As luck would have it, I only have to wait around 10 minutes before 165102 pulls in forming the delayed 14:30 service to Reading, so that'll be 25 miles less for this unit, with just 12 still required.

Arrival into Reading is later than scheduled, leaving very little time to see what's on the 15:18 service back to Paddington. Once again luck is on my side, as not only is it a cross platform change for my required train, it's also formed by required 165107. With platform staff blowing their whistles to urge everybody to hurry up, I jump aboard, find a seat and the doors close ready for departure. And then we wait, and we wait and we wait a bit more. It seems another unit has to couple up on the rear before departure, and that's not happened yet. Eventually there's a big lurch, which signals something has attached itself to our rear, followed by much engine revving and finally a blast on the horn to say all's well and we're on our way around 15 minutes late.

During our wait, I've figured out I only need 6.25 miles on 165107 to clear it for 100 miles, which means I can bail out at Maidenhead and await another service. We reach Maidenhead and I duly alight the train, but then curiosity gets the better of me and I walk to the rear to see which unit was attached at Reading. Lo and behold it's 165102 (which I'd caught to Reading from H&H), so I scramble aboard for those remaining 12 miles and that'll be another unit cleared for 100 miles. The plan is to go as far as H&H once more and see what rocks up as the early rush hour begins. I pay little attention to what's happening outside the windows, so it's only after we leave Slough that I begin to realise things aren't going to plan. We speed through West Drayton (thought we were stopping there, guess I must have been wrong though), and then we don't seem to be slowing for H&H either. The on-board display certainly says we're approaching our next stop, and several passengers get out of their seats and head towards the doors, but we speed through once more. A female passenger begins to panic, she's supposed to be meeting her children from school and will now be late. It turns out that the train is going to run non stop from Slough to Paddington, which was announced on the platforms at Maidenhead and Slough, but was certainly not announced to those already on-board the train at Reading !!!

So at 16:18 I unexpectedly find myself on the suburban platforms at Paddington looking to figure out my next move. There's no other units waiting to depart from the suburban platforms, so I head to the bridge that gives access to all the main line platforms to see if anything suitable is awaiting departure. I spy a long line of Turbos sitting in platform 3, so head down the stairs to see where this train is going. There's nothing displayed on the platform indicator, nor the departures board on the main concourse. A quick check on RTT doesn't throw up any clues either. I walk to the front of the train to check for any destination info on the indicator, but quickly realise all the engines are switched off and the doors are locked - guess this baby is going nowhere fast. In order from the front the units are 165118 165131 165133 and 165121. I've never see an 8 car Turbo formation before, especially one made up of 4 x 2 car units. Can I afford to hang around long enough to see where it's heading. Then I spot a member of staff further along the platform and ask them what service this combination will be forming later on. A quick check on their mobile device reveals it will be the 16:49 to Oxford, which is usually an HST stopping only at Slough, Reading, Didcot along the way. So it all makes sense to me, an 8 car Turbo substitution for the HST. I therefore decide to hang around until the train is announced and we can start to board.

As departure time draws nearer passengers begin to stream onto the platform, so I head towards 165133 which I'll ride as far as Reading before bailing onto 165121 onwards to Oxford. That'll get 121 cleared for 100 miles then I can fester at Oxford until 133 heads south again and ride it until the next station after Reading (Twyford if it's a stopper, or Slough if it's a semi fast) and that'll also see 133 cleared for 100 miles.

But wait, what's happening. Nobody is jumping onto the rear 2 units (the ones I want to ride), they are all walking to the front (dud) units. Turns out it's only the front 4 cars that will form the 16:49 - so no use for me now and I'm back to square one again - where's my next train out of Paddington ??? I dash to platform 14 where the 16:45 to Reading is about to depart. It's formed of 3 car unit 166202, which is required so off we trundle west once more. But then the trundle becomes a crawl, and finally the crawl comes to a halt. Seems there are signalling/track circuit problems outside Paddington this evening. Our driver keeps us well informed of what's happening, almost quoting rules and regs word for word to explain why he has to edge forward 1 red signal (under extreme caution) at a time and then call the signaller to say he's reached the next signal before we are finally able to clear the impacted section of track. I guess most of his words will be lost on the passengers crammed onto the train by now - they are all plugged into their mobile devices and oblivious to what's going on around them.

Fortunately for me, I'd managed to grab a seat at the back of the train in what was previously a first class section - 166s used to have 2 first class compartments (one at either end of the unit), but FGW decided to make one of these 2nd class in (I think) 2014. It's amazing how many passengers still don't know they are no longer 1st class. The number of people I saw today who peered in as they boarded before deciding they couldn't possibly sit in what was virtually an empty cabin.

We finally reach Reading at 18:03, so after a quick PNB I head off to platform 1 to see what's on the 18:12 to Newbury. I'm more than happy to see it's winner 166214, on which I only need a little over 15 miles to clear it for 100 miles. So all aboard to Newbury and then jump onto the first service heading back to Reading. Arrival into Newbury is on-time at 18:42, so off I walk to platform 2 to see what's heading back. As luck would have it, the 18:43 to Paddington (ex Plymouth HST) is running around 7 minutes late, so I grab a seat in the evening sunshine and plot my next moves.

In roll 43030+43132 on what will be my only non Turbo move of the day. A spirited run sees me back at Reading by 19:07, so I decide to head towards platforms 4,5,6 to see if my last remaining 450 for sight (450 020) happens to be around. Sadly not, there's just an 8 car 458/0 formation waiting to head back to Waterloo. So it's back to platform 7 to await the 19:21 service to Bedwyn, which today is being formed by winner 165129. I decide to head all the way to Bedwyn, since it's the final station on the Berks & Hants line to which my rover ticket is valid.

We depart Reading on time, and since I've already been down to Newbury less than an hour ago, I decide to read one of the many discarded newspapers that litter my carriage. We're held at Newbury for some 7 minutes whilst a late running Paddington to Plymouth HST pulls into platform 2 before being signalled to depart ahead of us. I now begin to pay more attention to the countryside around me, I've not been on these tracks for many years and can't remember what's around (I vaguely recall heading this way on a summer Saturday in early 80s BR days behind a class 47 and sitting in very comfy Mk I corridor stock from Slough to Torquay). There seem to be plenty of level crossings on this route, every time we pull into a station the local roads grind to a halt ! To the north I see several hot air balloons tracking the M4 and heading west, wish I was up there with them :)



On past Kintbury, where I spot a rather fine looking pub/diner called The Dundas Arms - has anybody on the forum ever been there, what's it like ? Then we reach Hungerford, a large but sparse station, with The Railway Tavern offering excellent views of passing trains for those of you who may be interested. I also spot a sign saying the station car park is just £2.40 ALL DAY. How come there's such a huge variation in what we're asked to pay at stations. Slough is £7.10 per day, Taplow is £4.30 before 10am, but then around £2.40 after that !

We reach Bedwyn at 20:25, so I spend a little time looking around this little station, then watch my inbound service pull into the turn back sidings before forming the service back to Reading. To reach the London bound platform, you need to exit the station, walk over the road bridge and then head back down the approach road. It only takes a couple of minutes, but it's a pleasant little walk in the cooling summers air. I'm suddenly aware of an approaching train, and watch a London bound HST rattle through the station. Then a couple of minutes later 59101 appears round the bend forming a Theale to Merehead service. At 20:37 165129 pulls into platform 2 and on I hop, being the only passenger until we reach Hungerford.

Arrival back into Reading is at 21:29, it's nearly dark, I'm feeling tired and hungry, but at least 165129 has now been cleared for 100 miles too. I decide that's enough for today, so jump aboard the 21:33 service back to Paddington formed of winners 165126 and 165134. I decide to ride 134 since that's my lowest mileage unit, adding 13.5 miles by the time we reach Taplow at 21:50.

So a long first day, but plenty of objectives reached:
336.5 miles travelled.
264 miles travelled on required units = 78% overall.
15 services used.
6 additional units cleared for 100 miles.

An earlier start is planned for day 2, so it's off home to freshen up, grab a bite to eat and get some shut eye !
 
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The Dundas Arms was a bit upmarket when I last visited there, probably 10-odd years ago (brings back memories of sitting on the patio area overlooking the K&A watching various boats and listening as HSTs sped past). I believe there is a forum member who lives around Kintbury who might be able to say what it is like now

Sounds like a busy day on the lovely Turbos :)
 

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It's a funky idea that, I need to make a real effort to get the LM 170s cleared for 1,000 miles each. Difference being of course your units are more noisy and enjoyable mind!

Certainly you did well considering FGW were on strike, I'm guessing after this 3 day adventure you'll be still continuing the mission on other trips?

I sure enjoyed the read, and welcome to the clan of trip report writers! Looking forward to Day 2 now!
 

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Sounds like a productive day there. This reminds me I will have to do a Thames Rover later in the year to try and track down my last 4 165s and 5 power cars.

I agree with Kite about the Dundas Arms being upmarket. It is in a lovely setting but it certainly doesn't offer good value for money for both food and drink.
 

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Certainly a brave man going out on a strike day! Nevertheless a decent set of moves to get some Turbo thrash in the book. I definitely agree with you in that chugging up & down branch lines is not the most efficient way to get the mileage up.

The three day rover looks to be excellent value for money, especially if you are one of those fortunate sods like me who has a railcard. Works out at just over 10. 00 per day. Even the one day Thames Branches rover isn't too bad especially if you are content to whizz up and down the main line all day bagging HSTs. I am rapidly convincing myself that I need to do one soon.

Good luck with days 2 and 3 of your rover.
 

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Day 2 - Friday 10th July

One of the benefits of my rover ticket was that it's valid as soon as off peak day return becomes available. This means I can travel towards the Cotswolds around an hour earlier than if I wanted to head towards London. Therefore this mornings plan is to catch the 08:22 from Taplow to Reading, jump onto the 08:53 (fast) from Reading to Oxford, before seeing what turns up at Oxford where I have 4 potential services within 40 minutes.

The 08:22 rolls into Taplow in the hands of dud 166217, so I hop aboard for my first move of the day. We reach Reading at 08:45 and then I head over to platform 9 to await the 08:53 to Oxford. I spot 166209 (my lowest mileage 166) roll into P7 with a service to Newbury - no time to swap platforms, so I stick to my original plan. Dud 166206 rolls in a few minutes later and by 09:20 I'm at Oxford awaiting the first of my possible moves.

Option #1 is the 09:31 (fast) to Paddington. The platform is already packed, so it's going to be a cosy journey. I spot a 3 car unit leaving the stabling point, but as it draws closer I see it's dud 165111, so I decide to wait a bit longer.

Option #2 is the 09:37 (slow) to Paddington. Once again I wait to see what comes off the stabling point, this time it's 166206, so again I'm going to decline.

Option #3 is the 09:42 to Worcester SH. Due to the FGW strike, this is a STP working which RTT says will be formed of a Turbo unit. I can go as far as Moreton-in-Marsh, but this means waiting around an hour before anything heads back towards Oxford. I head over to the bay platform and to my surprise it's a 180 unit, never seen anything other than 165/166 in the bay so I grab the opportunity to take some photos but decide I'm not going to travel on this service.

Option #4 is the 10:08 ex Banbury to Paddington. I'd already seen the outbound working earlier this morning as I waited at Taplow, so I know it's formed by 166211. This was cleared for 100 miles yesterday.

So that's my initial plans gone up in smoke. Not a single working being formed by a Turbo I'm after - guess this is going to happen more frequently as I track down those elusive units. I decide to head back to Reading ASAP, so jump onto the 09:43 XC service to Southampton formed by 220027. As we leave Oxford I spot 66954+66516 on a Southbound freight, then 66172 at Hinksey and 66007 at Didcot.

I'm back at Reading by 10:12, so decide to check platforms 13 & 14 to see if anything suitable is heading towards Paddington. Sadly no luck there, so it's over to platform 9 to await the 10:22 (fast) to Oxford. I suddenly spot required 165136 pulling into platform 11 on the 10:22 (slow) to Oxford. I decide to stay where I am and see what pulls in on platform 9. It's dud 165109, so I frantically dash up to the transfer deck and race down the stairs to platform 11 hoping the doors have not been shut. I'm in luck, it seems there's a slight delay whilst they uncouple the inbound service to allow the front 2 cars to continue forwards to Oxford.

On the journey to Oxford, I've worked out I need to pick up 165136 on it's next southbound working as far as Didcot to ensure I've cleared it for 100 miles. We arrive into Oxford at 11:08, and I'm hoping the 11:31 (fast) to Paddington is not one of my required units, otherwise I will have some serious decision making to do. Fortunately for me it's dud 166221, so all's well. I spy 166205 waiting in bay platform 3 ready to form the 11:45 to Banbury. Now that is on my required list, and a round trip to Banbury will enable me to clear it for 100 miles too, but I decide to stick to my plans and ride 165136 which is going to form the 11:37 to Paddington. Once we reach Didcot there's a 12 minute wait (presumably for connecting services from Bristol/South Wales) so I decide to get some photos of the locos on the stabling point. Today sees 66007 and 67003. Then on the avoiding line I spot 70007+66559 heading east on a long intermodal freight working and finally 66012 heads through platform 3 with a rake of empty aggregate wagons.

I decide to hop onto 165136 once more and continue to Reading, where we arrive at 12:31. So in the space of 4 hours I have managed to travel around 123 miles of which a little over 35 miles is actually on required units. At this point I decide to take a break and head off into the Town Centre.

I get back to Reading Station at 13:00 and immediately spot required 165116 waiting on platform 6 with the 13:04 to Redhill. I only need 14 miles to clear this unit for 100, but decide to go further (as far as Guildford), where I may get lucky and spot that elusive 450020 and possibly some refurbished 456s in SWT livery. Arrival into Guildford is at 13:45, and with the next service to Reading not due out until 14:09, I find an empty seat in the sunshine and watch the various movements through the station. There's 2 x 456 in new SWT livery, another pair still sporting Southern livery, plus a 12 car 450 formation, but sadly 450020 is still avoiding me.

Dud 166208 rolls in with the 14:09 to Reading, and 45 minutes later I'm running along platform 5 to try and make the delayed 14:55 to Paddington off platform 10. Glad to say I make it, only to spy required 166209 departing platform 9 on the 14:59 to Oxford - that's twice today I've been in the wrong place at the wrong time for that unit. Within a few minutes I'm aboard dud 166221 and settling down in yet another deserted ex first class cabin. As we depart Reading I see required 166210 pulling in on a service from Paddington, I only need 1.5 miles out of that unit, another case of "if only....."

We speed past a very busy Acton Yard, where I spot 66039, 66109, 66136, 66594 & 66749. By 15:36 we're pulling into Paddington and I see required 165104 sitting in the suburban platforms. A check on the departure boards shows it'll be working the 15:57 to Banbury, so I climb aboard, grab a seat and await departure time. After checking my logs I figure out I need to travel just over 23 miles to clear this unit for 100 miles, so by 16:37 I'm climbing off at Maidenhead with my 3rd unit of the day cleared but it's taken 8 hours !!

A check on the departure boards suggests the next service will be the 16:49 to Paddington. This is formed of 5 coaches, so there are two chances of getting another winner. I position myself carefully on platform 4 to ensure I can see both unit numbers without having to make a mad dash from one end to the other. In roll dud 166218 and required 165137, so I head to the rear two coaches and start to eat into those 46 required miles. According to RTT, this service will reach Paddington (platform 14) at 17:31 before forming the 17:42 service back to Bourne End - fantastic news, a quick turn round and I will be back in Maidenhead around 18:15.

I pass the time by tracking this service on RTT. It still amazes me that I can see the progress from on-board the train in virtually real time. Unfortunately RTT shows we are slowly loosing time, and by Hayes & Harlington we're 4 minutes down. Progress into Paddington is slow, and we finally arrive 6 minutes down at 17:37. We also don't arrive at platform 14 as expected, we're on number 11 ?? But hey I'm happy, just 5 minutes to wait before heading out again. I decide to step out onto the platform to give my legs a stretch, and it's then I begin to realise things aren't going to plan. All the engines have been shut down, there's a group of cleaners working their way down the train giving it a good old spruce up and there's nobody waiting to board the outbound service - this train isn't going anywhere at 17:42 !!

I head to the main concourse to see what's scheduled to leave shortly. There are various services heading to Reading / Oxford / Henley, but none of these trains are departing platform 11. Suddenly I spot required 166209 sitting at platform 6. It's on the 17:49 to Oxford, but as I walk along the platform it's clear to me it'll be standing room only. It's a hot day today, so there's no way I want to endure that sort of journey. Sadly that's the 3rd time today I've been unable to ride that unit. Since there's at least 25 minutes until all of the above mentioned services depart, I decide to get a bite to eat and something to drink.

Eventually the departure screens indicate that the 18:18 semi fast to Oxford is departing from platform 11, so I head straight to 165137 which is at the very front of the train and grab a seat. It's then that I realise the 7 minute delay on my inbound service has cost me an additional 36 minute fester at Paddington and a corresponding 25 minute late arrival back into Maidenhead. We depart on time and I reach Maidenhead at 18:39, just as an eastbound service departs platform 4 - I'd hoped to catch that one back to Taplow. I therefore have to wait until 19:05 and jump onto dud 165111 for the short 3 minute hop, so I finally get back to Taplow at 19:09.


So there you have day 2 done and dusted:
285.5 miles travelled.
118.5 miles travelled on required units = 41% overall.
11 services used.
4 additional units cleared for 100 miles.


My plan for day 3 was to spend some time at Reading working out which units were allocated to specific services, then ensuring I was in the right place at the right time to ride them. However this went out the window when I got a text reminding me it was the bi-annual Rebellion Brewery (Marlow) charity fund raising day on Saturday. Make a financial donation, then drink as much ale as you like from 11am until 5pm...... guess which option I went for ???
 

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Of course you went for the rail option! ;) Seriously, sounds like a good time there!

Didn't exactly go to plan there, but at least you made some reasonable progress towards the goal :) Fingers crossed Day 3 will work better!

A 180 in the bay at Oxford is certainly unusual, not something I've ever seen!
 

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Looks like you had a lot of fun with Turbos :). The Class 165 units are my favourite because of the engine sound and how noisy they are, but 166s are the complete opposite as the air conditioning equipment makes them sound very crap.

A month ago I ended up at Reading after getting 455s from Waterloo, and to return to Paddington I deliberately waited 40 minutes for the ex-Bedwyn non-stop Turbo to Paddington instead of getting a HST. It was a much more enjoyable ride than a HST, because of the engine sound as well as fresh air from the open windows :P. Started pouring down with rain too, which my favourite weather for bus or train rides!

Maybe I should get my coat instead :lol:
 

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Thanks for all your comments, glad some of you found it an interesting read.

Sadly I didn't make it to day 3, the Rebellion Brewery visit took priority. It only happens every 2 years and I'm sure I'll be doing another 3 day rover before the end of the year.

So over the course of just 2 days I managed to achieve the following:

622 miles travelled.
372.5 miles travelled on required units = 60% overall.
26 services used.
10 additional units cleared for 100 miles, so that leaves me just 16 to clear.


For anybody who's interested in doing a Rover in the Thames Valley area, please be aware that the ticket gates don't seem to like them. My ticket got rejected at Maidenhead, Reading & Guildford - not sure about Paddington and Oxford since the gates were open every time I was there.
 

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Thanks for all your comments, glad some of you found it an interesting read.

Sadly I didn't make it to day 3, the Rebellion Brewery visit took priority. It only happens every 2 years and I'm sure I'll be doing another 3 day rover before the end of the year.

So over the course of just 2 days I managed to achieve the following:

622 miles travelled.
372.5 miles travelled on required units = 60% overall.
26 services used.
10 additional units cleared for 100 miles, so that leaves me just 16 to clear.


For anybody who's interested in doing a Rover in the Thames Valley area, please be aware that the ticket gates don't seem to like them. My ticket got rejected at Maidenhead, Reading & Guildford - not sure about Paddington and Oxford since the gates were open every time I was there.

If Paddington doesn't like the single day version than they probably won't like the 3-day rover.

In my experience, rover tickets are very hit & miss when it comes to being accepted by the barriers.
 

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A good read there, thanks. Interestingly I was due to be in London the same day as you and had considered doing a Thames branches rover (I have zero coverage there), but I bottled it and headed home because of the strike. After reading how productive you were I regret not going for it!
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If Paddington doesn't like the single day version than they probably won't like the 3-day rover.

In my experience, rover tickets are very hit & miss when it comes to being accepted by the barriers.

My experience of the Paddington barrier line is the barriers are far more cooperative than the staff manning them!
 
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