Could Northern get additional stock?

[brad465]

What's the situation like in Scotland? Could ScotRail spare a few 156s, 158s or 170s for GWR and Northern?

Probably not right now, although if 222s can displace a few 170s this might work, then some more after the BEMUs arrive.

 

[Trainbike46]

Probably not right now, although if 222s can displace a few 170s this might work, then some more after the BEMUs arrive.

My understanding is that the plan is to retain the 158s and 170s for the non-BEMU lines, and dump the 156s, and in any case, this will be years away, by which time northern's own new stock order should be coming in as well.

 

[LittleGidder]

The stored 153s that Northern got rid of in the Covid period would be a huge help today, late now obviously due to corrosion from cold storage.

 

[yorksrob]

The stored 153s that Northern got rid of in the Covid period would be a huge help today, late now obviously due to corrosion from cold storage.

Indeed. Covid was a good excuse to get rid of costs, in order to fit some "new normal" that turned out to be baloney.

 

[D365]

The stored 153s that Northern got rid of in the Covid period would be a huge help today, late now obviously due to corrosion from cold storage.

I was under the impression that Class 156s from EMR were the replacement for the remaining Class 153s at Northern. Irrespective of COVID.

 

[LittleGidder]

The 156s definitely helped, just wish the 153s were kept as backups. Would have maybe also stopped the making of more 150/0 sets (150/1 ends and a 150/2 carriage fitted in the middle if you didn’t know)