Justin Tyme
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Midland Red closed its percels service in 1980, which contrasts quite strongly with some Scottish operators by the looks of it.
I never started till July 1995...!!!My copy of the Conditions of Carriage, dated July 1993
Royal Mail used to run PostBus services in a few rural areas. IIRC there was a note about the Dent PostBus service in a Regional Railways timetable for Leeds to Carlisle from the 1990s.As the name suggests, PostBus used to carry mail and the buses still have the post horn logo, but as I understand it the mail is now delivered by a separate company within Swiss Post.
This will have been through Pegasus Express Limited which was a joint venture courier company set up between Stagecoach Bluebird and Pegasus Couriers in 1993, Bluebird retained 50% ownership until October 2008 when the company was sold to the French Post Office and eventually incorporated in to the DPD brand.My local operator, Stagecoach East Scotland, has told me that the SBG type parcels service, the topic of this thread, only ended in their area in 2007. I have to say, it certainly wasn't widely advertised after 1990. In fact, I can't recall any Fife Scottish timetables, after the 1991 Stagecoach takeover, advertising a parcels service.
There would have been no reason why this couldn't happen but I don't know of any company that offered that service. In 1972 as a 16yr old I worked for an electronics supplier based in the centre of Glasgow and part of my daily duties was taking parcels containing radio's and cassette recorders to Anderston Bus Station for onward delivery to various customers in Lanarkshire and Ayrshire. I suppose that this was as near as you could get to same day delivery. Strangely enough I never went to Buchanan St Bus Station so those areas served by Midland and Eastern Scottish obviously didn't merit our attention in a sales capacity.Could any company have used door to door, using a van to pick up at a house, take to a bus station or depot, load, and at the other end, the reverse happened?
Love the ingenuity of using the dog tickets!Update from previous response.
My copy of the Conditions of Carriage, dated July 1993, refers to unaccompanied parcels.
Available on specific routes only: 106, 232, 238, 239, 250, 251, 252, 253, X23, X42, X43, X60/260.
And the best bit:
No problem, didn't want to bore people:Love the ingenuity of using the dog tickets!
Out of interest (to see where the parcels could get to, and also the the spread of the PMT network) can anyone translate those service numbers into destinations?
When my mate was manager at PMT Crewe's depot (who later went on to become PMT's commercial manager he told me this:Love the ingenuity of using the dog tickets!
Thanks, an interesting range of services (and sad that most of them now long lost but that’s another thread!) and odd as you’ve noted that they didn’t operate on other longer services like Crewe or Shrewsbury.No problem, didn't want to bore people:
106: Longton to Leek (no current equivalent).
232: Hanley to Tean (32 nowadays).
238/238: Cheadle to Uttoxeter via Alton (no current equivalent).
250 series: Hanley - Longton - Stone (no current equivalent).
X23: Keele University - Hanley - Sheffield (16 as far as Buxton nowadays).
X42: Hanley - Longton - Tean - Uttoxeter (no current equivalent to Tean, then 32 from Tean to Uttoxeter nowadays).
X43: Hanley - Longton - Cheadle (IN2 nowadays).
X60/260: Hanley - Stone - Stafford (101 nowadays).
It's an interesting collection. Most run to the east of the City, in a clockwise arc from Leek at the top round to Stone. At the time PMT had other rural routes extending beyond the urban area eg X64 (Hanley to Market Drayton and Shrewsbury, 320 (Hanley to Crewe).
It doesn't represent all the rural area served to the east, nor does it represent all the services operated out of Cheadle garage - that would require inclusion of 234/5/6 Cheadle - Ipstones - Leek (30 nowadays) and, historically, lots of infrequent odds and ends around Cheadle. Cheadle garage had an integral bus station and travel office so could have handled parcels, as could the travel offices at Leek, Hanley and Longton bus stations. No bus office at Stone or Stafford but there was a wide network of agents for excursions and tours.
320 Crewe, now 3Thanks, an interesting range of services (and sad that most of them now long lost but that’s another thread!) and odd as you’ve noted that they didn’t operate on other longer services like Crewe or Shrewsbury.
320 ran between Coppenhall & Hanley, later becoming the 20 running from Leighton Hospital / Coppenhall & extended through to Meir Square (I.drove many a Bristol VR on a round trip between my split duty). I think it was then curtailed back to Hanley at some point before becoming the 3 and operating between Crewe Bus Stn & Hanley only...320 Crewe, now 3
Thanks, aware of those connections but they weren’t ones listed as operating the parcels service which Baxendale provided info on.320 Crewe, now 3
X64 Shrewsbury (fully Arriva)
They did. £1.50 per parcel tag for us drivers.TNT did it with National Express Mid 90's from recollection.
My apologies, slightly misread.Thanks, aware of those connections but they weren’t ones listed as operating the parcels service which Baxendale provided info on.