Cosworth train engine

[strange6]

I have heard a rumour that Cosworth engineering (of road car and formula one engine fame) are working on a next generation train diesel engine for Bombardier transportation and their next generation of trains. Fancy marketing your train has a Virgin Cosworth??? Will try to find out more about this

Source: Racecar engineering magazine (May edition)

 

[IanPooleTrains]

Fancy marketing your train has a Virgin Cosworth???

That would then meanyou are seconds off the pace, consistently last in the standings and have rubbish drivers as well :roll:

 

[Sadelta99]

Cosworth train... Interesting thought... Will it have the whaletail spoiler and recaro seat for driver

 

[RichmondCommu]

That would then meanyou are seconds off the pace, consistently last in the standings and have rubbish drivers as well :roll:

And of course you would have no problem flying around Spa.

 

[jon0844]

I have heard a rumour that Cosworth engineering (of road car and formula one engine fame) are working on a next generation train diesel engine for Bombardier transportation and their next generation of trains. Fancy marketing your train has a Virgin Cosworth??? Will try to find out more about this

Assuming this isn't an April Fool's joke (which would be dated May on the cover), I'd love to see the Cossie badge on the side of the train!!

I owned an Escort Cosworth and loved every mile of it (sold the car with 96,000 on the clock - so I got my money's worth unlike all those who kept their car in the garage and only used it for 'dry miles'). I'm not ashamed one bit - and the car even had the whaletail and was totally OTT. So what, it was the 1990s!

The company has changed quite a bit, but the badge still pops up from time to time. Even though Cosworth has worked with more than just Ford, I still think most people still associate Cosworth with fast Fords. I can just imagine someone bringing along a train to the next RS Owners Club meet-up!

 

[moonrakerz]

The Mondeolino ?

 

[strange6]

Assuming this isn't an April Fool's joke (which would be dated May on the cover), I'd love to see the Cossie badge on the side of the train!!

I owned an Escort Cosworth and loved every mile of it (sold the car with 96,000 on the clock - so I got my money's worth unlike all those who kept their car in the garage and only used it for 'dry miles'). I'm not ashamed one bit - and the car even had the whaletail and was totally OTT. So what, it was the 1990s!

The company has changed quite a bit, but the badge still pops up from time to time. Even though Cosworth has worked with more than just Ford, I still think most people still associate Cosworth with fast Fords. I can just imagine someone bringing along a train to the next RS Owners Club meet-up!

Take a look at their website! They have their fingers in a lot of pies from an engineering point of view. Aerospace, marine, energy generation, and they can even be found in warzones!

http://www.themanufacturer.com/uk/content/10759/Cosworth_wins_defence_prize

I think a train diesel engine would be pretty much standard fayre to them!

 

[mumrar]

Hmm, well a quick look through the magazine's website find's absolutely nothing to do with the OP. Not surprising because it has little to do with racecar engineering. Racecar engines are high-revving, high power and low torque engines, totally the opposite of what a train would need.

I did a search for Bombardier and it came up with zero.

I hope for the OP's sake he lives in a different timezone because as we all know, trying an April Fool's after 12:00 means you get Face AIDS!

 

[jon0844]

Take a look at their website! They have their fingers in a lot of pies from an engineering point of view. Aerospace, marine, energy generation, and they can even be found in warzones! I think a train diesel engine would be pretty much standard fayre to them!

I know the history, but I'm pretty certain that after various buyouts and splits, Cosworth Engineering is now a separate entity (for car engines) and not part of the company that does (or would likely do) the big stuff like a train engine.

Cosworth was working with Subaru the last time I looked, making an Impreza Cosworth - ironic when back in the 1990s it was Cosworth vs Subaru!

 

[strange6]

Hmm, well a quick look through the magazine's website find's absolutely nothing to do with the OP. Not surprising because it has little to do with racecar engineering. Racecar engines are high-revving, high power and low torque engines, totally the opposite of what a train would need.

I did a search for Bombardier and it came up with zero.

I hope for the OP's sake he lives in a different timezone because as we all know, trying an April Fool's after 12:00 means you get Face AIDS!

Try the magazine itself! And Cosworth is known best for its motorsport business which is why they get reported about in such a magazine. And why did you mention the racecar engines being high power and low torque??? You seem to think just because Cosworth are know for these type of engines, that's all they can do! Cosworth have designed many different types of engine over the years, including jumbo engines (in conjunction with Rolls Royce who was once their sister company - both being owned by Vickers plc at one time) and really big diesel engines for ships, boats etc They are the engine masters
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I know the history, but I'm pretty certain that after various buyouts and splits, Cosworth Engineering is now a separate entity (for car engines) and not part of the company that does (or would likely do) the big stuff like a train engine.

Cosworth was working with Subaru the last time I looked, making an Impreza Cosworth - ironic when back in the 1990s it was Cosworth vs Subaru!

When it was owned by Ford, it was split into different subsiduries: Cosworth Racing, Cosworth Engineering and CosCast (Cosworth Castings). I think the new American owners have merged it all back into one business again, certainly the racing and engineering side is one business again

 

[NJTom]

I think the only way Formula 1 could apply to the uk railway is that all passengers on pacers should be equipped with the neck protecting Hans device.

 

[jon0844]

I think the only way Formula 1 could apply to the uk railway is that all passengers on pacers should be equipped with the neck protecting Hans device.

Will this also means train bound for the depot will be back out in 10 seconds or less?!

(@strange6, I didn't know about the current status of Cosworth - so thanks for the update!)

 

[strange6]

Will this also means train bound for the depot will be back out in 10 seconds or less?!

(@strange6, I didn't know about the current status of Cosworth - so thanks for the update!)

My pleasure and I do agree about the Hans device!

 

[starrymarkb]

Other luxury Marques who have built rail engines include Rolls Royce and Maybach (now MTU)

 

[RichmondCommu]

Other luxury Marques who have built rail engines include Rolls Royce and Maybach (now MTU)

In fairness though those two companies have many different divisions!

 

[w1bbl3]

When it was owned by Ford, it was split into different subsiduries: Cosworth Racing, Cosworth Engineering and CosCast (Cosworth Castings).

IIRC it was vickers who split the business into Cosworth Racing (Cosworth Racing), Cosworth Engineering and Casting (Cosworth Technology).
Vickers sold Cosworth Racing to Ford and Cosworth Technology to Volkswagen Audi Group who later sold it onto Mahle. Mahle then renamed the company Mahle Powertrain.
Ford sold Cosworth racing to American investors who promptly renamed the business Cosworth Group confused yet?

I believe Cosworth Group and Mahle Powertrain have offices next door to each other in Northampton.

Rather perversely Mahle manufacture components for many highly successful racing engines.

 

[strange6]

IIRC it was vickers who split the business into Cosworth Racing (Cosworth Racing), Cosworth Engineering and Casting (Cosworth Technology).
Vickers sold Cosworth Racing to Ford and Cosworth Technology to Volkswagen Audi Group who later sold it onto Mahle. Mahle then renamed the company Mahle Powertrain.
Ford sold Cosworth racing to American investors who promptly renamed the business Cosworth Group confused yet?

I believe Cosworth Group and Mahle Powertrain have offices next door to each other in Northampton.

Rather perversely Mahle manufacture components for many highly successful racing engines.

Yes, you're right! Cheers for that