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WatcherZero

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There helping them do it, though theyve set as a condition that they have to emphasise that it wasnt their fault so its going to be caused by dodgy builders.
 

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Ah, that puts a slightly different slant on things; any idea as to whether they will insist the "tram" is in a fictitious livery / operator name?
 

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No they want it in their livery, providing help for them to build a replica for the set, any publicity is good publicity (and they did have that condition attached), they were crowing as well when corrie updated its intro last month with the new livery, even putting a plaque on a tram to celebrate its 50th anniversary year.

Operators changed from Serco to Stagecoach now, they might have a different attitude though support seems to be coming from the PTE too.
 

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Didnt they have a train crash on the bridge many years ago?

It didnt do the railways any harm

People know that nothing is perfect and they can distinguish fantasy from reality

After all real people dont spend all their time jumping in and out of each others beds.
 

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Didnt they have a train crash on the bridge many years ago?

It didnt do the railways any harm

People know that nothing is perfect and they can distinguish fantasy from reality

After all real people dont spend all their time jumping in and out of each others beds.

Showing my age yes a train came over the viaduct about 1967,I think Ena Sharples was trapped in the rubble and Len Fairclough saved the day so they have raked up an old plot.ps hav'nt watched it for years.
 

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Showing my age yes a train came over the viaduct about 1967,I think Ena Sharples was trapped in the rubble and Len Fairclough saved the day so they have raked up an old plot.ps hav'nt watched it for years.

Yes it was 1967. I wasn't born then, but I know about it because I've seen it on youtube a few times. If anyone's interested, just search for coronation street train crash on youtube.
 

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I do actually watch Coronation Street, but I'm not really sure why any more as the plot realism and the continuity error rate have both been really laughably high in the past few years!:lol:
 

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I doubt a real tram bridge would actually collapse, these bridges have been standing up for decades and have taken heavier stuff than a tram, but all of a sudden tram comes along and the bridge decides to collapse. I love corination streets realistic story lines:roll:
 

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I doubt a real tram bridge would actually collapse, these bridges have been standing up for decades and have taken heavier stuff than a tram, but all of a sudden tram comes along and the bridge decides to collapse. I love corination streets realistic story lines:roll:

I think the idea is that someone in Corrie has been doing unapproved building work to one of the railway arches on the sly, thereby weakening the structure.

So which tram is expected to drop 30 ft onto certain cast members? I suspect Metrolink need all of theirs for, well... running a tram system. So it'll either be a props department build, or perhaps another disused unit from somewhere else. I remember seeing a shabby and rather odd looking two car light rail unit south of Derby station a few years ago... IIRC it was brought here from Europe or North America as a test but subsequently mothballed. They could probably get hold of that and mock it up...?
 

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I think the idea is that someone in Corrie has been doing unapproved building work to one of the railway arches on the sly, thereby weakening the structure.

So which tram is expected to drop 30 ft onto certain cast members? I suspect Metrolink need all of theirs for, well... running a tram system. So it'll either be a props department build, or perhaps another disused unit from somewhere else. I remember seeing a shabby and rather odd looking two car light rail unit south of Derby station a few years ago... IIRC it was brought here from Europe or North America as a test but subsequently mothballed. They could probably get hold of that and mock it up...?


it'll probably be a cardboard look-alike or something light weight replica so they can clear it away relatively easily!
 

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I remember seeing a shabby and rather odd looking two car light rail unit south of Derby station a few years ago... IIRC it was brought here from Europe or North America as a test but subsequently mothballed. They could probably get hold of that and mock it up...?

That would be one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_LRV - Manchester bought two from San Francisco's Muni Metro for possible use in 2002. Wiki explains more :)

In 2002 the city of Manchester, UK was host to the British Commonwealth games. Manchester has its own LRT system named Metrolink. As many of the athletic stadiums were on the route of the LRT capacity problems were foreseen, and a short term solution was required. Manchester Metrolink approached Muni about the possibility of buying redundant Boeing LRVs for use on Metrolink. Two units were purchased for US$200–US$500[3] for initial evaluation and shipped to the UK. One unit was sent to the UK Railways Inspectorate in Derby, to ensure the LRV met UK road and rail safety standards, and another to Metrolink in Manchester[11] for conversion evaluation. Units 1214, 1219,[12] 1220, 1221, 1234,[13] 1249,[14] 1268, 1288, 1305, 1308, 1312, and 1327 were stored pending the sale.

Investigations concluded the trams were not in line with UK safety standards (in fact they would suffer more damage than a UK car in the event of accident) due to their height and width. Additionally other problems were found including the drivers seat being on the opposite side of the road (UK roads drive from the left), Conversion to remove ticket sales (Tickets are sold from the stops before boarding). LRT system requirements dictate the separation of the driver from direct passenger contact for road safety reasons. As the driver was next to the door (in order to receive fares), this wasn't possible. Given this list of changes for such a short term solution, even though practically free to purchase the Boeing LRV was not selected. The remaining units in storage in San Francisco are now scrapped

San Francisco had decided that AnsaldoBreda was a better product - that says a lot about the Boeings!
 

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Heres that clip - no I wasn't alive then!

I found it very un-realistic!
 

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That was realy un-realistic by the looks of things. I reckon they'll do a better job this time, and probably add to the drama by showing the crash. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up having a couple of the characters riding on the tram at the time.

Now corries doing this, when the story gets out they'll all be doing it, Jerry Springer (Eastenders) will have a tube crash, a light aircraft would probably come down in Emmerdale. As soon as one of them does something, all the rest follow suit and do the same
 

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That was realy un-realistic by the looks of things. I reckon they'll do a better job this time, and probably add to the drama by showing the crash. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up having a couple of the characters riding on the tram at the time.

Now corries doing this, when the story gets out they'll all be doing it, Jerry Springer (Eastenders) will have a tube crash, a light aircraft would probably come down in Emmerdale. As soon as one of them does something, all the rest follow suit and do the same

Emmerdale has already done a plane crash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5V_R_H9Gt0&feature=related

Love the bouncing (as in blatently on wires) flaming debris!
 

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I've never watched Corrie, so can't tell you much about it, but for its 50th, why not have a party instead lol! Much happier. A birthday is a time of celebration, knees up, enjoyment, not suffering.
 

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This is a soap (no I dont watch them either) however for a soap viewer, a big budget disaster is a happy party.
 

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I think I read on Wikipedia before that the 1967 train crash took place as the street went from a studio to the outside street they have today and this was how they were able to change it. I think the new plot is for a similar reason, going to HD this time.
 

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And precisely how much damage is this going to do to the image of tram systems?!:roll: I really hope that Metrolink will get this blocked; there are an awful lot of people out there who have trouble telling the fiction of soap operas from reality as it is.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s...755/corrie-boss-reveals-tram-crash-stunt.html

Unfortunately, all forms of rail will become seen as unsafe etc, all becazuse of Corrie. Sad how some people take it as Gospel Truth.
 

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Of course there was also the death of character "Alan Bradley" in 1989 when he went under a Blackpool Tram.

Clearly someone on Corrie is a secret gricer and quite probably of the tram variety!

(disclaimer: I've never actually watched it on TV) :D
 

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Of course there was also the death of character "Alan Bradley" in 1989 when he went under a Blackpool Tram.

Yes, and that character just proves my point about people having trouble telling fiction from fact; the actor gave an interview about a year after the Bradley character was killed off in which he said he was still getting people coming up to him in the street and calling him all sorts of names! He even had a pensioner whack him with her umbrella once while she called him "You BEAST!!!"

And if I remember right the tram in question was either 710 or 720.
 

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I think I read on Wikipedia before that the 1967 train crash took place as the street went from a studio to the outside street they have today and this was how they were able to change it. I think the new plot is for a similar reason, going to HD this time.

Eastenders did this, burned down the Queen Vic so they could move to a HD set. If Coronation street filming moves from Granada Studios to Media City (something thats on and off more often than a horny italian) they will destroy the set as a way to explain any difference in moving it, I dont think this particular incident is a move to a HD set however, just a SFX heavy plot.
 

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I've never watched Corrie, so can't tell you much about it, but for its 50th, why not have a party instead lol! Much happier. A birthday is a time of celebration, knees up, enjoyment, not suffering.

I remember watching the 40th with my mother. All I remember in terms of spoken word is William Roache (who has been in the cast since the start) saying "To Coronation Street". I believe it was live as well; it was dark! And last I checked, 19:30 in December is night in Manchester :lol:

I'm surprised Eastenders hasn't had someone jump in front of a 'D' stock unit to be honest. They've featured "Walford East" (Bromley-by-Bow to all of us, because we're sad; I believe it is underground unlike the real one), and apparently there is a "Walford West" as well (according to Wikipedia), so it would be feasible; I'm sure LUL could give them a five-minute slot during (or ideally before) engineering works, to just have someone jump off the platform with the electricity supply inactive (for the works of course, although knowing Eastenders...). Mind you, Eastenders is too unrealistic for that, even soap standards. Their idea of being hit by a train would be the Volk's Electric Railway on Brighton seafront...

Could someone paste the article here please? For some stupid reason my browser keeps closing when I try to read it.
 

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Not sure if the Underground would allow that, a lot of operators (such as the Metro here) have rules on what you can and can't use their property for filming, and one of the banned subjects is usually suicide.
 

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I can confirm that; I hold one of the non commercial 30 day passes and that is indeed one of the conditions. It doesn't specifically state that as such, but there is quite a long list of exclusions and a proviso about nothing which would harm their image.

Which seems very reasonable to me.

If EE wanted to do something like that, they would have to either refer to it off scene or create a full scale mock up in a studio, and I suspect that the latter course of action might pretty quickly result in "an interesting reaction" from 55 Broadway...
 

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Eastenders did this, burned down the Queen Vic so they could move to a HD set. If Coronation street filming moves from Granada Studios to Media City (something thats on and off more often than a horny italian) they will destroy the set as a way to explain any difference in moving it, I dont think this particular incident is a move to a HD set however, just a SFX heavy plot.

Oops, you're right! Got my soaps mixed up, but admittedly I rarely watch the things.

The interior of D stock did appear on EastEnders recently but it was a studio set I think as you could not see into the next carriage through the end windows.
 

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I can confirm that; I hold one of the non commercial 30 day passes and that is indeed one of the conditions. It doesn't specifically state that as such, but there is quite a long list of exclusions and a proviso about nothing which would harm their image.

Which seems very reasonable to me.

If EE wanted to do something like that, they would have to either refer to it off scene or create a full scale mock up in a studio, and I suspect that the latter course of action might pretty quickly result in "an interesting reaction" from 55 Broadway...

Well they co operated with the production of Three and Out.

Though many of the areas where they said they were in mess rooms and the such were cafes or other buildings nearby. They did use some real trains mind you!
 
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