whoshotjimmi
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/8114555.stm
Can't say I'm totally surprised by this for various reasons.
Can't say I'm totally surprised by this for various reasons.
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TGVDUDE
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well why would it just not stop! lol
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asylumxl
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It doesn't suit the train team?
Mintona
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Only reason I can think if the guard decides it is too busy and tells the driver not to stop coz it could be a safety issue. Although they should still stop at least to tell the passengers waiting. Poor show.
devon_metro
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Before commenting, I suggest people should do their research. The paper has blown this completely out of the water.
I shall elaborate. Perranwell passengers have a train towards Falmouth and Truro every hour (one skips it making up a half hour service) and this stop is by request. This service is FAR better than they have ever had. The trains missing them are in fact the one that aren't timetabled to stop, and they have interpreted the request stop as applying to all of the trains!
How commuters has anything to do it aswell, considering all trains before 0900 stop at Perrenwell.
Now please, stop with the FGW bashing, who recently published punctuality figures of 94.5%, amongst the best in the country.
I shall elaborate. Perranwell passengers have a train towards Falmouth and Truro every hour (one skips it making up a half hour service) and this stop is by request. This service is FAR better than they have ever had. The trains missing them are in fact the one that aren't timetabled to stop, and they have interpreted the request stop as applying to all of the trains!
How commuters has anything to do it aswell, considering all trains before 0900 stop at Perrenwell.
Now please, stop with the FGW bashing, who recently published punctuality figures of 94.5%, amongst the best in the country.
I figured it might be something like this.
And I agree that people should stop bashing FGW. FGW had a bad start when it took over the local section of the franchise, but unlike most other rail companies who made mistakes, FGW apologised, and swiftly made changes.
Yet they still get blamed for so much. Oh no, commuter trains are crowded. well duh.
Then they brought in the excellent HST refurbishment, which brought tons of extra seats for busy Paddington services, without sacrificing legroom, and the most comfortable first class seats in the country, and still certain users of this board object, because they cant bully their way into being one of 2 people rudely occupying a full set of 4 seats anymore...
and then this. Services not scheduled to stop arent stopping! oh no! and yet the reality is that services have dramatically increased on this route, thanks to FGW.
I did an ALR this month. Two solid weeks, and many of my journeys were on FGW services, mostly in and out of Paddington. And not a single one out of about 25 trains was ever the slightest bit late....
Yay for FGW!!!
In fact, FGW's timekeeping is so brilliant, that Weston-super-Mare is now no longer regarded as a bottleneck. So the proposed redoubling of the loop line has been postponed. Oh, the irony....
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TGVDUDE
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i love FGW i'm no FGW hater! i love em!
Mintona
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With respect, no-one (on this thread) is bashing FGW.
devon_metro
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Indeed, I got side-tracked from my original point that people should not comment unless they know the facts, which I have stated.
whoshotjimmi
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The reply from FGW (I know it will not be a full response before anyone gets on at me) makes it appear as though not everyone fully understands what is going on with this particular timetable (including passengers)
It has also become apparent to me after I checked out the timetable, all 'commuter' services are timetabled to stop ie every half hour.
It therefore does not surprise me to find that there is a degree of confusion about the situation. Public consultation seems to be the part lacking here. Call it FGW bashing if you will but FGW customer service hasn't got the best reputation now, has it?
Hence, I can't say I'm surprised.
It has also become apparent to me after I checked out the timetable, all 'commuter' services are timetabled to stop ie every half hour.
It therefore does not surprise me to find that there is a degree of confusion about the situation. Public consultation seems to be the part lacking here. Call it FGW bashing if you will but FGW customer service hasn't got the best reputation now, has it?
Hence, I can't say I'm surprised.
tbtc
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So, the service on the line is doubled, but the offpeak service to this station remains at the hourly frequency? Correct me if I'm wrong.
So, this station is no worse off than it used to be (and actually has a better peak service)?
Sadly, this just goes to show that some members of the public will compalin about anything...
So, this station is no worse off than it used to be (and actually has a better peak service)?
Sadly, this just goes to show that some members of the public will compalin about anything...
87015
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Two coach train every hour been replaced by one coach train every hour off peak. Thats worse off, was a busy 2-car when I was last down there so making it half hourly single units will simply exacerbate the wedge on the core train, just like it did with Voyagers on operation Pumpkin. People won't change travel plans just because there is another train half an hour later.
alan
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excuse my ignorance but how is one supposed to stop a train by request? Surely you're not expected to stick your arm out like when waiting for a bus!
thats exactly what you do! on some local lines, the driver should slow down on the approach, and check if anybody is there waiting. if there is, he stops, if not, he can accelerate away again!
Mystic Force
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Yes thats right, thats exactly how it works.
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devon_metro
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The Falmouth line was not hourly before the new timetable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
whoshotjimmi
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You seem to have a bit of knowledge/experience on this subject. What was the timetable frequency compared to now? Has the service at this particular station improved or declined?
The comments that have come from FGW make it appear as though the point raised by 87015 is correct, ie previously a 2 car hourly service replaced by a 1car half hourly, with just the hourly scheduled stop at Perranwell. You are saying that this is not correct.
This is exactly the point I am making. No-one seems to know or understand properly what is happening. If rail enthusiasts can't make head nor tail of a simple timetable, what possible chance do passengers have? Passengers are a fickle bunch at times, but you cannot blame them for that. They want to get where they want to go. Changes to timetables and services erect a barrier to the ease of movement if there is not a decent explanation to people. I'm sure that, in this case, the solution will be very simple.
devon_metro
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The service was unclockface roughly every 90 minutes. The current TT is easy to understand. The hourly quote was originally posted in the local paper so cannot be trusted at all.
According to the Great Malvern paper, FGW hsts waiting at the station before their next service causes chaos for residents. Yeh...
According to the Great Malvern paper, FGW hsts waiting at the station before their next service causes chaos for residents. Yeh...
Well we better make them wait at Worcester instead then!
flymo
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Just for comparison here is a look at the lines timetables for 2008 & 2009. I used the summer timetables so there is a like for like comparison between the 2 timetables.
Truro - Falmouth Timetables
Truro - Falmouth Timetables
devon_metro
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No, they run on the down mainline before entering into the bay platform, so very careful timetabling indeed.
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