Cornish bus operators (excluding First Kernow)

[83G/84D]

Cornwall fatal coach crash driver charged.

Two people died after the crash and four are still in hospital
The driver at the wheel of a coach that crashed, killing two people, has been charged with dangerous driving.
Martin Chun, 59, from Whitestone, near Exeter, has been charged with causing death by dangerous driving and causing serious injury by dangerous driving.
The coach crashed on a steep hill at Morval, near Looe, Cornwall, in May 2014.
Mr Chun has been released on police bail and is expected to appear at Bodmin Magistrates' Court on 7 January.
The 50 passengers were on an Age Concern trip from Exmouth.
Several of those injured were taken to Plymouth's Derriford Hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-34870839

 

[83G/84D]

Former Arriva North West & Clynnog & Trefor Volvo Olympian N706 TPK.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Former Arriva North East & Clynnog & Trefor Volvo Olympian N706 TPK.

Think you mean Arriva North West (and originally Arriva Southend). Who is operating it now?

 

[kernowbususer]

The lettering looks like Hayle Travel.

 

[richw]

It is hayle travel.

 

[Busaholic]

Bus Fayre, the catering company using an ex-Derby Ailsa as a cafe and who were at Tesco, Penzance a couple of days a week, left the site at the end of September as Tesco wanted it back for car parking spaces in the run-up to Xmas. They may be back in the Spring.

 

[83G/84D]

Can anyone provide details such as previous identity / registration for OTS Optare Solo "239 TRL" seen on service 321 yesterday?

 

[fgwrich]

From Retrobus on Flickr.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/29197...VXE-cwK4Lm-9XnHcA-akVSw4-axxu9L-a9F8Fa-aMdE7c

Cornish independent OTS have a new addition to there fleet in the form of Slimline Optare Solo 239 TRL originally YJ56WVH, a former Walsall Community Transport bus as with all there fleet it is seen looking very smartly presented here in Falmouth on there 366 Townlink Service with a Friendly face at the wheel

Tuesday 8th September 2015

 

[83G/84D]

Very helpful - thank you.

 

[richw]

Can anyone provide details such as previous identity / registration for OTS Optare Solo "239 TRL" seen on service 321 yesterday?

Currently for sale on eBay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-Opta...729976?hash=item2ee8a6a138:g:UewAAOSwAKxWVLhO

 

[fgwrich]

Currently for sale on eBay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-Opta...729976?hash=item2ee8a6a138:g:UewAAOSwAKxWVLhO

Surprised it's up for sale already, it have been with them for that long!

Might be a good opportunity for FK/BK - a fairly good Slimline Solo for sale on your doorstep!

 

[richw]

Surprised it's up for sale already, it have been with them for that long!

Might be a good opportunity for FK/BK - a fairly good Slimline Solo for sale on your doorstep!

As soon as I saw the advert I thought Mousehole. Its original registration is very similar to the green FK Slimlines they have on Mousehole

 

[South Westerly]

Surprised it's up for sale already, it have been with them for that long!

Might be a good opportunity for FK/BK - a fairly good Slimline Solo for sale on your doorstep!

No need for any more. There are plenty of short narrow Solos and 20 7'6" MPDs too now.

 

[richw]

To meet the changing needs of passengers we have made some changes to both Plymouth Citybus and Go Cornwall Bus services that will take place from 10th January 2016.

Plymouth Citybus changes are as below:


5/5A- Changes to Route and Timetable:

The Plymstock section of the route is to remain the same but the service is to continue onto St Budeaux via Devonport & HMS Drake. Monday - Saturday only.

20/20A- Changes to Timetable:

Re-timed to improve reliability on peak journeys.

21/21A- Changes to Timetable:

Timetable reverts back to every 10 minutes plus all services to serve Barne Barton.

27/27A/27B- Changes to Route and Timetable:

Revised timetable and route, 27- All services to continue onto Derriford. 27A- All services to continue onto Asda, estover. 27B Evening & Sunday only.

28/28A/28B- Changes to Route and Timetable:

Revised timetable, 28- All services to continue onto Derriford. 28A all services continue onto Mainstone & Asda. 28B Monday to Fridays and Sunday evenings replace 27B.

32- Changes to Route and Timetable:

Pottery Quay (Torpoint Ferry) to City Centre via Stoke, Molesworth Road and Railway Station. Most 32 services connect with Torpoint services to maintain connection to railway Station and Stoke.

34/34A/34B- Changes to Timetable:

Re-timed to improve reliability in the peaks. 34B via Union Street morning peak & evenings. 34 also re-timed to give a better connection for passengers from Torpoint who wish to travel to Derriford.

42/42A/42B/42C- Changes to Route and Timetable:

All services to serve Marjons between Crownhill and Derriford, additional evening journey to serve Woolwell, additional morning services between City Centre and Derriford.

Go Cornwall Bus changes are as below:


10- Changes to Route and Timetable:

City Centre - Saltash, Fore Street, St Stephens Road, Beatrice Avenue, Lynher Drive, Spencer Gardens, Lynher Drive, Beatrice Avenue, St Stephens Road, Saltash Fore Street- City Centre. This will run every 30 minutes at 10 past and 20 to the hour. 10A, 10B withdrawn, No Sunday service.

11/11A- Changes to Route (plus school diversion) and Timetable:

Service diverted in saltash to serve Fairmead Road and Oaklands Drive.

75 Liskeard to Padstow re-numbered 11A from Plymouth - Padstow.

12- Changes to Route and Timetable:

Revised timetable to improve running time. Service to divert vis Stoke Climsland.

All above services will maintain a 10 minute frequency from Saltash Fore Street to Plymouth City Centre.

70/70A/70B/71- New Timetable, Route and Number:

Plymouth - Torpoint - Cremyll or Liskeard via Union Street and Devonport

All peak services to serve Great park. Most services will change to a 32 on arrival to City Centre to provide a link to the Railway Station, Molesworth Road and Stoke. The same will apply in the other direction.

72- Change to Timetable:

Revised Sunday timetable. Passengers who wish to travel between Plymouth and Looe on a Sunday please use service 11 to Liskeard and 73 to Looe.

73/74- Change to Timetable:

Revised timetables to maintain connections and improve reliability.

75 Re-numbered 11A

78/78A- Changes to Route and Timetable:

78 Callington - St Dominic

78A Callington - Downgate, no longer serves Stoke Climsland.

This is replaced by service 12.

79 Re-timed to improve rail connections
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[83G/84D]

There is a red decker with Ensignbus titles on an industrial estate near Redruth this afternoon. Possibly one operated by Hayle Travel?

 

[83G/84D]

The former Mulleys Vario AY55 DGE was spotted earlier today outside the Travel Cornwall depot at Summercourt in an all white colour scheme.

 

[richw]

The former Mulleys Vario AY55 DGE was spotted earlierv today outside the Travel Cornwall depot at Summercourt in an all white colour scheme.

Possibly DDA compliant or a coach?. Has a wheelchair lift on the rear nearside door.

 

[Busaholic]

4.30 p.m. today, exiting Hayle Retail Park in my car, a single deck bus was sitting on the bus stop, interior lights on, illuminated rear destination number of 50A showing. In the few seconds I had to take all this in, I would say it was an elderly Dart, the word Glider showing on the side and somehow it made me think of Plymouth Citybus. The front destination display was also lit up but I was unable to see what it said. My wife was unappreciative of the suggestion that we circle the roundabout and retrace our steps so the mystery remains unsolved by me. Any ideas, anyone?

 

[richw]

4.30 p.m. today, exiting Hayle Retail Park in my car, a single deck bus was sitting on the bus stop, interior lights on, illuminated rear destination number of 50A showing. In the few seconds I had to take all this in, I would say it was an elderly Dart, the word Glider showing on the side and somehow it made me think of Plymouth Citybus. The front destination display was also lit up but I was unable to see what it said. My wife was unappreciative of the suggestion that we circle the roundabout and retrace our steps so the mystery remains unsolved by me. Any ideas, anyone?

Royal Buses of St Ives. They are operating an hourly St Ives to Hayle retail park service, undercutting First's price.

You will have seen V157MVX or sister V147MVX formerly of Chalkwell Coaches

 

[Robertj21a]

That won't be DDA-compliant unless someone has modified it.

 

[richw]

That won't be DDA-compliant unless someone has modified it.

My thought as well. They have a couple of WG ex Darts which are DDA that are normally found on this route- painted bright orange.

 

[Lynford1976]

Royal Buses of St Ives. They are operating an hourly St Ives to Hayle retail park service, undercutting First's price.

You will have seen V157MVX or sister V147MVX formerly of Chalkwell Coaches

And presumably still in Chalkwell livery, if it still has 'Glider' branding?

 

[richw]

And presumably still in Chalkwell livery, if it still has 'Glider' branding?

they are.

 

[Busaholic]

That won't be DDA-compliant unless someone has modified it.

Can you just get round the regulations by taking seats out?

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Can you just get round the regulations by taking seats out?

If you want a 16 seat Dennis Dart......

Alternatively, you can invest money in putting in side and rear displays, wheelchair ramps, wheelchair headboards, and all the other things that may be lacking for compliance

 

[Busaholic]

If you want a 16 seat Dennis Dart......

Alternatively, you can invest money in putting in side and rear displays, wheelchair ramps, wheelchair headboards, and all the other things that may be lacking for compliance

This particular operator we're talking about won't be doing the things in your second paragraph I feel, but might well consider the first option if they thought they could get away with it - flying by the seat of their pants was always their way, until Traffic Commissioners got involved, together with police, etc. They were supposed to have put all that behind them - I sincerely hope they have!

A 16, or 22 seat Dart might seem a stupid idea, but if the alternative is scrappage then a cash-strapped firm might consider it, particularly if it's only going to be used in an emergency.

 

[Robertj21a]

Can you just get round the regulations by taking seats out?

You can take seats out to bring it under the 22 limit - but it still only becomes legal if it is then submitted for recertification, and is approved. Essentially, it needs to acquire a certificate of compliance with the Act (i.e either compliant with DDA regulations, or exempt from them).

 

[richw]

That won't be DDA-compliant unless someone has modified it.

This particular operator we're talking about won't be doing the things in your second paragraph I feel, but might well consider the first option if they thought they could get away with it - flying by the seat of their pants was always their way, until Traffic Commissioners got involved, together with police, etc. They were supposed to have put all that behind them - I sincerely hope they have!

A 16, or 22 seat Dart might seem a stupid idea, but if the alternative is scrappage then a cash-strapped firm might consider it, particularly if it's only going to be used in an emergency.

You can take seats out to bring it under the 22 limit - but it still only becomes legal if it is then submitted for recertification, and is approved. Essentially, it needs to acquire a certificate of compliance with the Act (i.e either compliant with DDA regulations, or exempt from them).

Chalkwells modified it from Dual to Single door when they acquired it. I suspect they would have had it certified at that time.
Both have side and rear destination blinds.

 

[Busaholic]

Chalkwells modified it from Dual to Single door when they acquired it. I suspect they would have had it certified at that time.
Both have side and rear destination blinds.

I shall look into it (literally) if it appears next Sunday. I will act the ingenue, asking if this is the bus for Penzance when I board.

 

[richw]

I shall look into it (literally) if it appears next Sunday. I will act the ingenue, asking if this is the bus for Penzance when I board.

I can confirm it is DDA. Another local operator looked into buying them, of whom I have a contact within, and he confirmed they were certified at the time of conversion to single door.