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Conviction - Fare Evasion, Staff Assault & Resisting BTP - Inverness

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It's quite unusual to see this type of railway crime reach court in the Highlands.

It will be interesting to see what the final disposal is.

The article is from today's Press & Journal.

Repeat Highland fare dodger assaulted railway worker

A fare dodger who was caught twice in one day without a ticket assaulted a member of railway staff and resisted police officers.

Ghale Ahmed struck the railway employee as they attempted to escort him from Inverness train station.

Later that day he struggled with police officers who arrived to remove him from a train at Nairn station.

Ghale Ahmed appeared from custody at Inverness Sheriff Court to admit two fare-dodging charges, along with assault, threatening behaviour and resisting British Transport Police.

Fiscal depute Victoria Silver told Sheriff Robert Frazer that just before 7am on October 29, the conductor on the Kingussie to Inverness service approached Ghale and asked to see his ticket.


'He did not have a ticket'

"The accused had advised him that he did not have a ticket and did not have any money to buy one," Ms Silver said.

The conductor told Ahmed he would have to leave the train at the next stop but this was ignored.

When the train came into Carrbridge station, Ahmed did not respond to the conductor's prompts to get off.

"The conductor has then picked up the accused's sleeping bag and said that he would help him off the train, to which the accused has jumped up and started shouting aggressively at the conductor in a foreign language resulting in him feeling threatened," said Ms Silver.

The train continued to Inverness and Ahmed alighted and used the station toilet before being approached again by the conductor and asked to leave the station.

The railway employee escorted him towards the main entrance but Ahmed struck out without provocation and hit the man on the head.

"He followed this with two kicks to the witness's leg and back," the fiscal depute said.


Second incident

Then, around 5.20pm on the same day, the conductor on a train leaving Keith approached Ahmed to ask for a ticket.

Ahmed replied that he had a ticket on his phone but he was "out of battery".

"The conductor has explained he would have to buy a new ticket, to which he responded he didn't have any money."

Again Ahmed was told he would have to leave the train at the next stop – news he was said to be "unhappy" about.

The conductor then contacted police who met and boarded the train at Nairn.

Officers told Ahmed, who was assisted by an interpreter throughout the hearing, to leave the train, using short commands and hand gestures to indicate their request.

When Ahmed refused officers took hold of him to remove him from the train, at which point he began to resist and strike out at officers.

He was restrained and handcuffs applied to the front but continued to struggle onto the platform, where the handcuffs were moved to the rear.



Escorted off the platform

"He was escorted off the platform struggling and kicking out at officers," said Ms Silver.

The behaviour continued until Ahmed was placed in a police cell.

Solicitor John MacColl asked that his client be released on bail pending sentencing.

Sheriff Frazer told Ahmed: "This is two incidents that took place in the course of one day where your behaviour towards members of both British Rail and the British Transport Police is nothing less than disgraceful."

He added: "The court will be considering all sentencing options."

The case will call again in the new year.
 
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Also getting done for time travelling by the looks of it, having assaulted two "British Rail" workers. :lol:
 

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It's quite unusual to see this type of railway crime reach court in the Highlands.

It will be interesting to see what the final disposal is.

The article is from today's Press & Journal.
Interesting that
When the train came into Carrbridge station, Ahmed did not respond to the conductor's prompts to get off.

"The conductor has then picked up the accused's sleeping bag and said that he would help him off the train

It seems to me that regardless of the formal charges brought, the accused was in court because of
- being a pain the neck (other body parts are available) all day, and
- being a vagrant wandering around the system.

I'm not going to argue if this is right or wrong, but suspect that those are what caused the prosecution.
 

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It doesn't mention whether he was actually bailed or remanded in the end. Given the mention of a sleeping bag he is probably of no fixed abode, and courts don't usually bail in those cases, but it does sometimes happen (and the offender inevitably scarpers)
 

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We've certainly noticed an increase of foreign (potentially of Central/Middle Eastern/North African appearance) ticketless passengers on the more rural ScotRail routes recently. Usually, no ticket, no money, & no English.

The belief is that they are "asylum" seekers travelling between illegal agricultural work.
 

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We've certainly noticed an increase of foreign (potentially of Central/Middle Eastern/North African appearance) ticketless passengers on the more rural ScotRail routes recently. Usually, no ticket, no money, & no English.

The belief is that they are "asylum" seekers travelling between illegal agricultural work.

I thought The Gang masters used to convey them by Mini Bus in their dodgy endeavours ?

Should be banged up then deported.
 

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I thought The Gang masters used to convey them by Mini Bus in their dodgy endeavours ?

You would think so. That said if there is a suitable railway station near the pick up point then it seems reasonable that a "free" train is suggested as opposed to paying for petrol (or should that be red diesel?.....) to ferry your workforce about. Every penny is a prisoner in parts of rural Scotland.
 

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We've certainly noticed an increase of foreign (potentially of Central/Middle Eastern/North African appearance) ticketless passengers on the more rural ScotRail routes recently. Usually, no ticket, no money, & no English.

The belief is that they are "asylum" seekers travelling between illegal agricultural work.
Deeply, deeply worrying to see so many potential flags for modern slavery in one place. I seriously hope that warrants some attention including intelligence with local police and not only BTP.
 

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I’ll be the doom monger then and mention that, whilst very obviously nothing excuses an assault, I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a ‘tea, no biscuits’ event after that first incident. Does Scotrail generally encourage their guards to turf non-payers off of the train? That’s very much not what most TOCs expect these days. Nevertheless, nice to see it being dealt with properly in court.

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We've certainly noticed an increase of foreign (potentially of Central/Middle Eastern/North African appearance) ticketless passengers on the more rural ScotRail routes recently. Usually, no ticket, no money, & no English.

The belief is that they are "asylum" seekers travelling between illegal agricultural work.
This should be incredibly easy for the authorities to investigate, surely?!
 

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We've certainly noticed an increase of foreign (potentially of Central/Middle Eastern/North African appearance) ticketless passengers on the more rural ScotRail routes recently. Usually, no ticket, no money, & no English.

The belief is that they are "asylum" seekers travelling between illegal agricultural work.

This person was travelling from Kingussie to Inverness in the morning and from Keith to Inverness the evening of the same day.

That travel pattern - plus the sleeping bag - would tend to suggest "riding the rails" to keep warm rather than "commuting" to and from work.
 

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Deeply, deeply worrying to see so many potential flags for modern slavery in one place. I seriously hope that warrants some attention including intelligence with local police and not only BTP.
Thank you for saying this - I really do hope this triggered someone looking into his circumstances.
 

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This is why us railway staff have to where cameras , for our own safety , this is not how people should be treating staff , and to be honest everywhere you go now staff have to wear them because it’s getting out of hand.
 

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This is why us railway staff have to where cameras , for our own safety , this is not how people should be treating staff , and to be honest everywhere you go now staff have to wear them because it’s getting out of hand.
It is, but one of the greatest skills that on board staff can have - and boy do they need it! - is being able to find a constructive way through, and ultimately out of, situations with people who refuse to pay. Demanding that someone leaves the train is a direct route to a conflict the moment they refuse to do so, and ideally it’d be good to see staff suitably equipped with other methods of approaching these issues for when ‘the cavalry’ isn’t nearby!
 
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It is, but one of the greatest skills that on board staff can have - and boy do they need it! - is being able to find a constructive way through, and ultimately out of, situations with people who refuse to pay. Demanding that someone leaves the train is a direct route to a conflict the moment they refuse to do so, and ideally it’d be good to see staff suitably equipped with other methods of approaching these issues for when ‘the cavalry’ isn’t nearby!
So what do you suggest happens when someone of no fixed abode (who therefore can't be traced) refuses to pay? Bearing in mind that Scottish law applies.
 

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It is, but one of the greatest skills that on board staff can have - and boy do they need it! - is being able to find a constructive way through, and ultimately out of, situations with people who refuse to pay. Demanding that someone leaves the train is a direct route to a conflict the moment they refuse to do so, and ideally it’d be good to see staff suitably equipped with other methods of approaching these issues for when ‘the cavalry’ isn’t nearby!
Exactly good to see them have it but sometimes not worth the conflict. But shouldn’t really be happening in first place but they can’t stop everyone
 

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So what do you suggest happens when someone of no fixed abode (who therefore can't be traced) refuses to pay? Bearing in mind that Scottish law applies.
I would suggest that the colleague carrying out revenue duties requests the appropriate details, and if they aren’t forthcoming simply offers something appropriate along the lines of “Okay, I shall need to do some paperwork and you may find yourself discussing it with the police”, and moves on, either making efforts to hand the matter over accordingly or, if that isn’t practical, not. That is the reality of what “conflict avoidance” means, and that is the key part here, the employer decides how far it should be taken and not the employee - if they say conflict avoidance and their member of staff decides to ignore that, the member of staff is placing themselves squarely in the firing line. If the employer expressly gives their staff authority to manhandle people or their belongings off of a train over a ticket dispute, then by all means crack on. But, of course, they don’t.

From the colleague’s perspective it isn’t your money, you have offered as much of a rebuking as you are realistically able to do safely, and anyone else watching is reassured that “something” will happen. That is all that you can do, and is all that is needed at that point. Some people do struggle with that and start to take it personally, at which point things can have an awful habit of escalating.
 
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