Completing model A380 in BA colours

[Bayum]

I'm having a go st really getting s Revell kit done properly and really pay attention to the finer details.

So far all is coming along well! There are a few pictures to be seen here:









Unfortunately I've ended up with an area where the spray paint has managed to sneak under the masking tape! Anyone know how to get rid?

I'm sure it would still show under white primer!


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For some reason photo bucket keeps showing the link for the two pictures above as to the pictures I selected. How annoying.

 

[Clip]

Try using imgur for uploading pics - you can do a load in one batch and is simple.


What masking tape are you using? Different quality has different results - well it did last time I tried to make a model.

 

[507021]

Looking great so far Bayum. I have a friend who repaints model buses to an extremely high standard so when I next speak to him I'll ask and see if he's got any methods of getting rid of paint that's gone under the masking tape. I'll also ask him what brand of masking tape he uses as well if I think on

 

[Clip]

oops - I may be teaching you to suck eggs here but maybe make a thread in the modelling section about painting.
http://www.railforums.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=53

 

[DaleCooper]

Don't use standard masking tape, Revell do a tape (in various widths I think) specifically for this purpose and it's much better.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Revell-10m-x-6mm-Masking-Tape-/151789645741?hash=item23575e2fad

 

[carriageline]

I have no reply but wow that looks amazing!!

 

[SWTCommuter]

Frisk film is purpose-made for masking when airbrushing. It will give you a sharp edge and can be cut far more precisely than masking tape.
https://www.graphicsdirect.co.uk/frisk-film-10-x-4yds.html

Liquid friskets, which can be painted on and peeled off, are also available but they are intended for use on art board or canvas and the solvent base might damage the plastic of the model.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

You're not leaving the white plastic unsprayed are you? From experience, unpainted white plastic on model aircraft will turn cream after a while.

 

[Bayum]

Thanks for the lovely posts. First model I've done with this amount of dedication!

I'm using frog tape - it worked for my bedroom when I decorated and assumed it would work well on plastic kits, for the main part it has done so I guess I can't conplain!

Definitely not using standard masking tape though!!!

I haven't kept the plastic the colour as it came, I've used a white spray primer on all the parts so that the paint would stick better and I wouldn't have to spend all my time hand painting the fuselage!

Halfords have been great in allowing me to mix other colours for the coroguard and 'Boeing/Airbus grey'. They even pointed me in the right direction for the BA blue (Fiat Capri blue!)
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oops - I may be teaching you to suck eggs here but maybe make a thread in the modelling section about painting.
http://www.railforums.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=53

Don't apologise - I thought long and hard about posting in that forum, but noticed it related to trains and modelling - no mention of planes and the like!
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'Discuss railway modelling, collectables, books, magazines and other railway media'

Apparently the message I've entered is too small... This bears no relevance to the conversation!

 

[Clip]

Don't apologise - I thought long and hard about posting in that forum, but noticed it related to trains and modelling - no mention of planes and the like!

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True but im sure painting tips would cover everything whether in relation to trains or not. They cant be as pedantic as the rest of the forum surely

 

[Bayum]

Just another little update!



The underside of the wings will be masked off and painted in the light grey you can see on the rear.

The coroguard has turned out better than I thought it would, so hopefully the top of the wing will look just as good when the masking tape is removed!!

 

[deltic1989]

Funny this should come up actually, as I am in the process of an aviation model of my own. I don't have any pictures at the moment, but the model I am engaged in building is an English Electric Lightning.
I also have a Panavia Tornado still in the box awaiting assembly.
What I find interesting here is our different approaches to painting. I like the way that you are using spray paint on your model, and I may consider using the technique on future projects. However on my present models, and others that I have done in the past, I have tended toward hand painting, using Humbrol paints.
My main problem is that I can never, no matter what I try get the first coat of paint to stick properly, perhaps I should use a primer first. Let's put it this way, you don't want to know how many pots of Dark Sea Grey I went through painting the bottom of a 1:72 Airfix Vulcan to represent XM607's Black Buck Guise.

 

[DaleCooper]

My main problem is that I can never, no matter what I try get the first coat of paint to stick properly, perhaps I should use a primer first.

Do you wash it first?

 

[Bayum]

I've had issues before with paint not sticking - not the reason I've used a primer though!

I usually ensure that all the parts get a good soak in a nice, soapy fairy liquid solution in the kitchen, followed by a good hand scrub and a shower to wash it all away. That helps an awful lot in ensuring that the paint will get a hold.

I have found though that using a primer is beneficial for this particular model. Half the fuselage is white for a start, but I've also found it to be great for paint adherence.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

How much do these white spray paint thingys cost? I've got one of the Airfix 1/72nd Concordes sitting in a box for a decade awaiting assembly mainly because I'm not keen on the large expanse of white paint and knowing I'll need to buy a spray for it, but only for the one model....

 

[DaleCooper]

Believe it or not I've found perfectly adequate cans of spray paint in various colours in a pound shop. Why not try them, you've not got much to lose? Not much of a range but for basic colours they're a bargain.

 

[Bayum]

I bought some Humbrol acrylic primer from a modelling shop in York.

It's acrylic paint with enamel being fine to go on top. It's difficult to add enamel on top of anything else though.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Believe it or not I've found perfectly adequate cans of spray paint in various colours in a pound shop. Why not try them, you've not got much to lose? Not much of a range but for basic colours they're a bargain.

Thanks; does that include the spray gun to fit them to / are they single units these days like bigger spray paint cans?

( Conventional Airfix gloss white is just about the worst paint I have ever used anywhere... )

 

[DaleCooper]

Thanks; does that include the spray gun to fit them to / are they single units these days like bigger spray paint cans?

They are just the normal aerosol can type, no spray gun needed.

 

[meridian2]

Looking very nice Bayum; well done.

 

[heart-of-wessex]

Looking good!

I've started doing models myself, never washed parts though, never needed to really had no problems. My first model was white, an old Revell A320 with Volaris aftermarket decals:



Sprayed with primer white and then sprayed again with standard white, with about 3 or 4 coats. Done the same with my WIP EasyJet 737-200. Spray cans are car paint aerosols from Halford's, they come out very well and don't turn out creamy beige/off white over time.

I also varnish the model after all the decals are on and dried, it stops the decals peeling off over time, a mistake I forgot to do on my first model as a couple of the front decals fell off!

Looking forward to the result of the A380 though

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Is there a specific type of varnish to use to avoid the old discolouration problem with varnish turning brown over the years?

 

[Bayum]

Is there a specific type of varnish to use to avoid the old discolouration problem with varnish turning brown over the years?

Someone on BritModeller mentioned using wooden floor varnish. I'll try find the post for you and let you know.
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Someone on BritModeller mentioned using wooden floor varnish. I'll try find the post for you and let you know.

Found it!

An easy answer here - there is a product ( a floor polish actually ) called "Klear" in the UK, "Future" here is the US, that is exactly what you are looking for. It can be airbrushed, it can be hand brushed. It is self leveling, and leaves a smooth gloss finish. I apply it over the model before the decals, and after decaling, another coat to seal them in. I think of it as the airline modellers best friend - actually all modellers.



Only annoying thing about this product, is that they keep changing the label, so it is always a bit of a hunt to find the latest version when one goes shopping. It is no longer carried in the local supermarkets here, generally just the large Home Improvement type warehouse places, but a search on this forum should tell you where you can get it in the UK. It is just something you always want to have a bottle of, on hand.



Cheers,



Mike

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Thanks; I'll have to start planning a calendar slot to finally build that Concorde...

 

[Bayum]

I got some advice from a few people about varnishes and how to add authentic Windows and the like, and I decided to pay a nearby model shop a visit for some Milliput. Though I have since decided I really dislike working with the stuff, I'm hoping that I've used my scalpel well to ensure a really nice, smooth surface with which the varnish and decals will stick to without any problems.



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Further update after a few weeks of inactivity!

So I've had a total rethink with the wings and fell to pressure.

After seeing the results with the fuselage and belly it seemed silly to not go through the same amount of detail with the rest of the plane.

So far I've only managed to get the wings done in a base colour - flaps(?) and corruguard to come still! Hopefully I'll have managed to tape off tomorrow and possibly get some paint down too!

Now, some pictures! I can see what is meant by the ford dove grey being too brown - I do look at it as an extremely light brown as opposed to a light grey.



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All taped up ready for the corrugard to go on!

Bit of a nightmare trying to use photographs to ensure the right distances and angles, after a few attempts I'm happy!

 

[507021]

Looks great so far Bayum, looking forward to seeing it completed.

 

[cf111]

Looks brilliant. I had the pleasure of G-XLEF and G-XLED to and from Washington Dulles earlier on in the month and the A380 is an amazing machine. So quiet in the cabin as well, I was very impressed.

 

[Bayum]

Fairly quiet on the modelling front - been needing to sort out the finer pieces before moving on to adding decal so! Fuselage is going to hopefully be attached tomorrow, then I can begin to lacquer the model.

I plan to add the decals to the fiddler bits like the engines before I attach them to the wing, so that way the job will hopefully become a lot less fiddly!