Coasting without power

[LE Greys]

We were a group of mainly elderly folk returning from a visit to the south we were quite anxious that we had to change trains at Derby because of Sunday engineering. We had had a pleasant through journey south. As we had no reservation from Derby we were relieved to be on a longer and emptier train for the remaining part of the journey. The comment made by my father-in-law which I added as a PS was to me faintly amusing as he linked "bigger/longer" with "newer".
When I pointed out the age difference of the trains his friends added the other comments.
Mostly I travel on my own to Bristol and Bournemouth and I am very happy with the newer trains. I don't "dislike" any model of train-I don't care or know enough about them anyway.
If I am on a train going somewhere then I am not working and that is very good.

I used to hear people commenting on how nice the 'new' trains were on 225s after the Mallard refits.

 

[Phil6219]

The incident at shap was a Class 92 - 92019 operating the 4S25, according to the RAIB report.

The incident on the Styal line was if I remember the report correctly was a Class 66, the train consist itself was top and tailed with a 66 at each end. During the course of it's journey the rear loco became detached from the consist and due to a fluke in which the brakes did not come on allowed the locomotive to run away.

The fluke was that the rear loco was DIT, and a valve leaver had been physically opened (or closed) by an engineer who was following his operating instructions (as the locos were new to the company at the time). As it happens operating that valve stopped the air from bleeding out when the locomotive became detached.

I think the reason why the driver did not notice was because his train was working an engineers train and happened to be stationary. A runway locomotive is a scary thing. but to put things in perspective there could easily have been Pway guys out on those tracks that night who would not have seen nor heard a dead loco coming at them, considering how many times it went up and down the line makes it even more chilling. Anyone remember the Pway gang that got took out in 2005 by a runaway wagon?

As for the 66, I can't find the report right now and am going off my memory of what I had read when the RAIB report came out so may be slightly inaccurate.

Phil

 

[Spagnoletti]

The incident at shap was a Class 92 - 92019 operating the 4S25, according to the RAIB report.


The fluke was that the rear loco was DIT, and a valve leaver had been physically opened (or closed) by an engineer who was following his operating instructions (as the locos were new to the company at the time). As it happens operating that valve stopped the air from bleeding out when the locomotive became detached.


Phil

From memory the driver had failed to operate the assisting loco cock which would have allowed the train pipe to charge the main reservoir, as the train did not have continuous main res pipe. When the air bled off in the loco it became a swinger.

 

[mbonwick]

Correct Spagnoletti, there was discussion in the RAIB report that AFT was not an appropriate name as it did not convey the full usage of the cock.

 

[HSTEd]

As for the 66, I can't find the report right now and am going off my memory of what I had read when the RAIB report came out so may be slightly inaccurate.

Phil

Is this it?