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AndrewJM70 said:
Thanks for the info. By my calculation that would almost be half of the paths covered by then.
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24 current diagrams so it will be a third of the way, followed by however many more diagrams we end up with once all 33 units are accepted (versus 27 222s)
 
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Post #142 now updated with how things started/were allocated each day last week. This post will continue to be updated this week when time allows.

Monday 20th April 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810016
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810015
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810006
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810012
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 222015
NOTE: 222015 worked the start of DY503, 222013 worked some of the middle of DY503 and 810013 worked 1B82/1D94/5D94 of DY503.

Tuesday 21st April 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810013 (1C17 as far as Derby only, then 810010 worked this diagram from 1F32 onwards)
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810015
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810012
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810016
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810006
NOTE: Because of the failure with 810013, this I believe was the first day 6 different 810's worked in passenger service on the same day)

Wednesday 22nd April 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810015
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810006
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810016
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810010
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810012

Thursday 23rd April 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810010
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810013
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810012
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810014
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810015

Friday 24th April 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810012
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810016
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810015
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810006
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810010

Saturday 25th April 2026:
DY701 starting with 5B25/1B25 - 810016
DY702 starting with 5B10/1B10 - 810014
DY703 starting with 5C32/1C32 - 810010
DY518 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810013
DY520 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810012

Sunday 26th April 2026:
Different diagrams due to engineering work (I think). 810012 and 810015 were the only 2 810's in service.
 
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99009 said:
Post #142 now updated with how things started/were allocated each day last week. This post will continue to be updated this week when time allows.

Monday 20th April 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810016
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810015
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810006
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810012
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 222015
NOTE: 222015 worked the start of DY503, 222013 worked some of the middle of DY503 and 810013 worked 1B82/1D94/5D94 of DY503.

Tuesday 21st April 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810013 (1C17 as far as Derby only, then 810010 worked this diagram from 1F32 onwards)
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810015
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810012
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810016
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810006
NOTE: Because of the failure with 810013, this I believe was the first day 6 different 810's worked in passenger service on the same day)

Wednesday 22nd April 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810015
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810006
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810016
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810010
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810012

Thursday 23rd April 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810010
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810013
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810012
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810014
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810015
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Nice to see that analysis - thanks. Also I guess we still rely on the every helpful post #96 from @liamf656 to see the current planned schedules.
 
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Monday 27th April 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810016
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810006
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810014
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810013
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810010

Tuesday 28th April 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810006
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810010
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810018
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810015
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810014
NOTE: First day in passenger service for 810018.

Wednesday 29th April 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810010
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810016
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810014
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810006
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810018

Thursday 30th April 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810012
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810018
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810016
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810010
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810006

Friday 1st May 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810012
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810014
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810015
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - CANCELLED
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810010

Saturday 2nd May 2026:
DY701 starting with 5B25/1B25 - 810014
DY702 starting with 5B10/1B10 - CANCELLED (810015 started this diagram later in the day and then failed with door problems)
DY703 starting with 5C32/1C32 - 810016 (North to and south from Chesterfield only)
DY518 starting with 5F00/1F00 - CANCELLED (810010 started this diagram working 1C20 from Derby onwards)
DY520 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 222102

Sunday 3rd May 2026:
DY701 starting with 5D03/1D03 ex Cricklewood/St Pancras - 810016
DY702 starting with 5A56/2A56 - 810014
DY703 starting with 5F01/1F01 - 810010
DY507 starting with 5C39/1C39 - 222013
DY512 starting with 5C13/1C13 - 810012
 
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I notice that the 1402 London to Sheffield is timed as an 810 but is operated by a 222. Is this the next diagram to go over (and when might this happen?)
 
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tram21 said:
I notice that the 1402 London to Sheffield is timed as an 810 but is operated by a 222. Is this the next diagram to go over (and when might this happen?)
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Yes it will become 810 when availability allows

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Just updated post #96 with said diagram. It hasn't run with an 810 yet but may do within the next week or two depending on 810 availability. There should be a bit more flexibility over the coming months as staff training progresses
 
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My last week posting these as now the Class 99 movements are ramping up I'm going to concentrate on those.

Monday 4th May 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810010
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810014
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810013
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810018
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810016

Tuesday 5th May 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810010
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810015
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810014
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810018
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810013

Wednesday 6th May 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810014
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810010
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810013
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 222011
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810015

Thursday 7th May 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810010
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810012
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810016
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810018
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810015

Friday 8th May 2026:
DY701 starting with 5C17/1C17 - 810015
DY702 starting with 5B07/1B07 - 810010
DY703 starting with 5C11/1C11 - 810013
DY501 starting with 5F00/1F00 - 810012
DY503 starting with 5F07/1F07 - 810018

As of Friday 8th May 2026 810's that have worked in passenger service are 810006, 810010-810016 and 810018. 810019 is now at Derby Etches Park but not yet entered passenger service.
 
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liamf656 said:
DY512 - To be 810 when availability allows
5C14 0530 XEP SHF 0619
1C14 0630 SHF STP 0838
1F20 0902 STP SHF 1104
1C44 1135 SHF STP 1339
1F45 1402 STP SHF 1604
1C74 1435 SHF STP 1841
1D71 1905 STP NOT 2055
5D71 2104 NOT XEP 2146
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I've noticed 1C74 says 14:35 instead of 16:35 here
 
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810013 said:
I've noticed 1C74 says 14:35 instead of 16:35 here
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Thanks, corrected

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Today sees the first 810 covering a 222 diagram at short notice (810015)
 
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Just a note that tomorrow (29/06) we may see some 810s running on 222 diagrams due to unit displacement
 
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And today there is a fault with 012 meaning the cancellation of the 05:49 NOT-STP.
 
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Return from Sheffield also showing doubled as well just noticed....thanks for the reply liamf656..
 
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Here are the 810 diagrams for the temporary timetable which starts today. The diagrams I have posted previously can be disregarded for now. I believe there is now also a hightened chance of 810s being used on 222 diagrams and vice versa

AU101
5B10 0458 XEP NOT 0538
1B10 0610 NOT STP 0757
1D18 0835 STP NOT 1008
1B37 1050 NOT STP 1224
1D41 1305 STP NOT 1449
1B61 1512 NOT STP 1654
1D63 1735 STP NOT 1908
1B91 1950 NOT STP 2124
1D86 2235 STP NOT 0035
5D86 0050 NOT XEP 0128

AU125
5C17 0522 XEP SHF 0631
1C17 0700 SHF STP 0909
1F22 0932 STP SHF 1142
1C47 1200 SHF STP 1408
1F47 1432 STP SHF 1642
1C77 1700 SHF STP 1908
1F72 1932 STP SHF 2146
5F72 2201 SHF XEP 2240

AU126
5B07 0445 XEP NOT 0520
1B07 0549 NOT STP 0735
1F15 0803 STP SHF 1001
1C38 1035 SHF STP 1238
1F40 1302 STP SHF 1505
1C68 1535 SHF STP 1740
1D66 1805 STP NOT 1956
1B94 2012 NOT STP 2156
1F85 2232 STP SHF 0039
5F85 0055 SHF XEP 0127

AU127
5C11 0444 XEP SHF 0536
1C11 0556 SHF STP 0808
1F17 0832 STP SHF 1043
1C41 1100 SHF STP 1308
1D43 1335 STP NOT 1507
1B67 1550 NOT STP 1728
1F65 1802 STP SHF 2002
1C98 2101 SHF STP 2316
1D88 2335 STP NOT 0219
5D88 0233 NOT XEP 0305

AU217
5B04 0423 XEP DBY 0441
1B04 0447 DBY STP 0704
1D13 0735 STP NOT 0909
1B31 0950 NOT STP 1124
1F35 1202 STP SHF 1404
1C62 1435 SHF STP 1638
1D61 1705 STP NOT 1855
1B88 1912 NOT STP 2054
1F82 2032 STP SHF 2341
5F82 0002 SHF XEP 0037

AU219
5C14 0530 XEP SHF 0619
1C14 0630 SHF STP 0838
1F20 0902 STP SHF 1104
1C44 1135 SHF STP 1339
1F45 1402 STP SHF 1604
1C74 1435 SHF STP 1841
1D71 1905 STP NOT 2055
5D71 2104 NOT XEP 2146
 
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liamf656 said:
Here are the 810 diagrams for the temporary timetable which starts today. The diagrams I have posted previously can be disregarded for now. I believe there is now also a hightened chance of 810s being used on 222 diagrams and vice versa

AU101
5B10 0458 XEP NOT 0538
1B10 0610 NOT STP 0757
1D18 0835 STP NOT 1008
1B37 1050 NOT STP 1224
1D41 1305 STP NOT 1449
1B61 1512 NOT STP 1654
1D63 1735 STP NOT 1908
1B91 1950 NOT STP 2124
1D86 2235 STP NOT 0035
5D86 0050 NOT XEP 0128

AU125
5C17 0522 XEP SHF 0631
1C17 0700 SHF STP 0909
1F22 0932 STP SHF 1142
1C47 1200 SHF STP 1408
1F47 1432 STP SHF 1642
1C77 1700 SHF STP 1908
1F72 1932 STP SHF 2146
5F72 2201 SHF XEP 2240

AU126
5B07 0445 XEP NOT 0520
1B07 0549 NOT STP 0735
1F15 0803 STP SHF 1001
1C38 1035 SHF STP 1238
1F40 1302 STP SHF 1505
1C68 1535 SHF STP 1740
1D66 1805 STP NOT 1956
1B94 2012 NOT STP 2156
1F85 2232 STP SHF 0039
5F85 0055 SHF XEP 0127

AU127
5C11 0444 XEP SHF 0536
1C11 0556 SHF STP 0808
1F17 0832 STP SHF 1043
1C41 1100 SHF STP 1308
1D43 1335 STP NOT 1507
1B67 1550 NOT STP 1728
1F65 1802 STP SHF 2002
1C98 2101 SHF STP 2316
1D88 2335 STP NOT 0219
5D88 0233 NOT XEP 0305

AU217
5B04 0423 XEP DBY 0441
1B04 0447 DBY STP 0704
1D13 0735 STP NOT 0909
1B31 0950 NOT STP 1124
1F35 1202 STP SHF 1404
1C62 1435 SHF STP 1638
1D61 1705 STP NOT 1855
1B88 1912 NOT STP 2054
1F82 2032 STP SHF 2341
5F82 0002 SHF XEP 0037

AU219
5C14 0530 XEP SHF 0619
1C14 0630 SHF STP 0838
1F20 0902 STP SHF 1104
1C44 1135 SHF STP 1339
1F45 1402 STP SHF 1604
1C74 1435 SHF STP 1841
1D71 1905 STP NOT 2055
5D71 2104 NOT XEP 2146
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Thanks for this. Did I see from a previous post of yours that it's expected the 222s will be done by the end of the year?
 
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TT-ONR-NRN said:
Thanks for this. Did I see from a previous post of yours that it's expected the 222s will be done by the end of the year?
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Yes. Last I heard it's still the plan with 222017 departing this week, although I have heard various mutterings of an attempt to keep a handful into 2027 while the problems with the 810s get ironed out. Not sure how true it is (or if it is, whether it's been successful)
 
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Yes. Last I heard it's still the plan with 222017 departing this week, although I have heard various mutterings of an attempt to keep a handful into 2027 while the problems with the 810s get ironed out. Not sure how true it is (or if it is, whether it's been successful)
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So it's possible after things improving somewhat (with the cooler weather and a number of important services restored today), it could get a whole lot worse again in the next few months?
 
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So it's possible after things improving somewhat (with the cooler weather and a number of important services restored today), it could get a whole lot worse again in the next few months?
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That's what I was wondering, and why the idea mentioned before a few days ago - on this thread or another) that EMR might not actually take up the ex Avanti Voyagers after all would seem pretty barmy if correct....tho it was suggested that was a rumour.
 
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WesternLancer said:
That's what I was wondering, and why the idea mentioned before a few days ago - on this thread or another) that EMR might not actually take up the ex Avanti Voyagers after all would seem pretty barmy if correct....tho it was suggested that was a rumour.
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Arranging a sub-lease back from Scotrail for a few units is surely the easiest solution? Timing, numbers and price being the critical factors. And who pays.
 
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