During the building of these units multiple things have gone wrong.
Exactly, I'm not sure why people seem to think they must be delivered in numerical order, it's just whatever unit is ready first!
The are being delivered in numerical order - just numerical order in which they were accepted!Exactly, I'm not sure why people seem to think they must be delivered in numerical order, it's just whatever unit is ready first!
Well, at least as far as hauling passengers go, the 810s have not called at and EMR connect stations (to my knowledge), however the driver training services do call at some connect stations (Take 3A28 calling at Luton and Bedford for example)
You are several weeks away, ask closer to the time.
Well, depends on whether EMR increase the amount of 810s they have in service at onetime or not. As it stands, the services would be 1B07, 1B88 and 1B94. You can get 1B88 and. 1B94 to Beeston, East Mids Parkway Loughborough, Leicester, Market Harborough and Kettering, but 1B07 only calls at Leicester, Market Harborough and Kettering.
GIven these are not the first trains to have been constructed by Hitachi at Newton Aycliffe it makes we wonder why this could of happened.
Different part of business designed units compared to previous builds. The kept changing things when no need.
Also, the 810s aren’t as similar to the other IETs released from Newton Aycliffe, shorter carriage lengths, bigger diesel engines just to name a few, so I’m sure that it means that not a lot of parts are comparable between the classes (unlike may have been with the case with the Azumas for example)
So utter incompetence on the part of Hitachi, then. The ghost of AnsaldoBreda very much alive, it seems.
Exactly this!
Thanks, hopefully a few more come in soon
You can imagine the recriminations between Newton Aycliffe, Pistoia and senior management might be quite heated.
Also worth checking the diagrams thread for the 810s on the diagrams forum. There should be three daily diagrams by then so possibly a couple more options. Edit: Just had a look at diagram 3. It includes an arrival into Nottingham at 1507 and a departure at 1550.
The third diagram hasn't started yet so is still a Meridian
It should have done by March 5th
Yes sorry I understand now
At least it keeps them in work at Aycliffe until HS2 stock and Lumo/Gc build starts.
I suppose, maybe that was one good thing out of COVID as it was that what played a large factor in the delay of the 810s.
I think the answer to that is pretty obvious. Send them all off to the job centre. We've seen Hitachi change its production location commitments before. Most significantly with the 805/807 build, where it was stated that 56 body shells will be fully welded at Newton Aycilffe and in the end none were, with the 810s claimed to be the first. Prior to the Lumo and GC order I was highly pondering whether Hitachi would move their end of the HS2 train production between Pistoia and more work being done by Alstom in Derby. Given that Hitachi now own Pistoia and Brexit would seem to suggest that Newton Aycliffe is no longer the European base Hitachi originally intended it to be.
https://newsdesk.avantiwestcoast.co.uk/news/ship-to-shore-for-avanti-west-coasts-new-fleet-of-trains
There's clearly something majorly wrong when the first two diagrams are not reliably served by the 810's. Unless things radically improve, the MML service is going to go downhill.
I sm hoping that they are experiencing teething troubles but as each day goes by I'm not filled with confidence.
Perhaps they thought the wiring loom was table lamp technology and as the flex was a bit toooo long then just roll it up and push the slack behind a book case
Seriously, are we suggesting that Hitachi had several spare class 80x wiring looms laying around and decuded to try and shoehorn them into an 810? Sounds Unbelievable.
