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The47Wanderer

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Perhaps for use of railtours to fit in more with the coach rake opposed to bright red? Anyone know the real reason why?

Suits them quite well IMO!
 

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Looks like the livery of the Northern Belle branded trains.
That was my train of thought: I wonder if the locos have been reliveried to haul the Belmond British Pullman which DB currently hold the contract to provide traction for; a sister train to the DRS hauled Northern Belle.
 

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IF DRS retain the haulage contract for the NB if the rumours of it being sold turn out to be factual
 

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i wonder if that's a new contractual obligation, given that GB painted two locos up for the RS. IE have a 201 painted up for the hebridian (right name ???). And DRS have 2x 57s painted for the NB although i cant recall seeing them being used of late
 

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i wonder if that's a new contractual obligation, given that GB painted two locos up for the RS. IE have a 201 painted up for the hebridian (right name ???). And DRS have 2x 57s painted for the NB although i cant recall seeing them being used of late

They hadn't been used much lately but 57312 appeared on an NB working on the 15th October.
 

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If it's for vsoe I wonder if they'll keep those 2 spare for only the vsoe then
Would seem pointless painting them into Pullman livery, if they're going to change around the 67s in Pullman's anyway.
Perhaps they'll be parked up at wembley and Stewart's lane for the Belmond services.
As it stands the 67s on Pullman's are very regularly changed around so maybe these two will be specifically allocated to most Pullman's
 

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If it's for vsoe I wonder if they'll keep those 2 spare for only the vsoe then
Would seem pointless painting them into Pullman livery, if they're going to change around the 67s in Pullman's anyway.
Perhaps they'll be parked up at wembley and Stewart's lane for the Belmond services.
As it stands the 67s on Pullman's are very regularly changed around so maybe these two will be specifically allocated to most Pullman's

I'd imagine that if the are in traffic and not off with tech problems that they will be allocated to the VSOE much the same as DRS have Royal Scotsman 66s which seem to stick on that when needed
 

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I'd imagine that if the are in traffic and not off with tech problems that they will be allocated to the VSOE much the same as DRS have Royal Scotsman 66s which seem to stick on that when needed
GB Railfreight provide the class 66s for the Royal Scotsman, not DRS, and they can find themselves working quite far afield when not allocated to the Royal Scotsman. I would assume that the Pullman liveried 67s will be similar; allocated to the appropriate trains as required, but available for other work whenever otherwise available.
 

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GB Railfreight provide the class 66s for the Royal Scotsman, not DRS, and they can find themselves working quite far afield when not allocated to the Royal Scotsman. I would assume that the Pullman liveried 67s will be similar; allocated to the appropriate trains as required, but available for other work whenever otherwise available.

I meant GBRf that because I was reading about the Northern Belle and DRS lol. I'd assume that this is what will happen when needed will be sent back south to take up the VSOE work same as the GBRF 66s are sent north for the Royal Scotsman trains
 

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Here they are in south London on the VSOE stock out of victoria - the matching pair have been out today and yesterday.

 
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Here they are in south London on the VSOE stock out of victoria - the matching pair have been out today and yesterday.


Great shot there "BRX" - I first saw these locos in Wembley yard last week and my first thought of a livery description was "Coffee and Cream"! :)
 

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To clarify a few things...

The 67s have been painted for the DB VSOE contract (as has now been established and ably demonstrated by @BRX 's video) - part of the DB Cargo UK CEO's efforts to get the DB finally spruced up (hence the mass repainting off 66s into DB Red). They will try to keep these two locos on the VSOE as far as possible, but ultimately they're part of DB's operational 67 fleet so may end up elsewhere (bit like the "Royal" 67s).

The Northern Belle contract I understand has recently been won by West Coast, who will take over from DRS. No news yet on proposed traction/liveries. The two DRS 57s in Northern Belle livery were until recently stored (at Longport MOD). At least one is back in traffic - but was being used by ROG for a Class 350 stock move the other day - DRS are currently using "Compass liveried" locos on the Northern Belle; either 57s or more regularly these days, 68s. Obviously with losing the contract, there won't be any 68s being repainted into Northern Belle/Pullman colours.

The two maroon-liveried GBRf 66s do try and stick on the Royal Scotsman, however more often than not this summer/season, there was just one of the pair on and the other end (if it was T'n'T) was a 'normal' GBRf 66. The other RS 66 was usually down in Doncaster or hauling intermodals to/from Felixstowe..!?

I have heard that the Caledonian Sleeper contract has a stipulation that 80% or more of the traction used should be in the CS livery - not sure if there are similar requirements in other contracts - or if it's a more informal "nice to have". If it is a requirement on the Northern Belle and/or VSOE, DRS and DB haven't exactly been adhering to it recently...!

In other 67 livery news, I understand 67005 and 67006 (Royal train locos) are getting repaints, but only a refresh of the current liveries. I would expect most/all of the operational EWS 67s to receive either DB Red or other new liveries as part of the Big DB Paint Off.
 
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