Class 60s toton

[Rail Blues]

Again, this is copied and pasted from another thread, but it's relevant. I'll put the link in:

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/gb-railfreight-in-locomotive-acquisition-talks.149967/page-10

GBRf can't get 60's, I believe they tried but wanted to overhaul them at Brush. DB wouldn't let anyone take them away without DB doing all the overhaul, like they did for Colas. I was told that GBRf realised that they couldn't get the loco's away by road because they're too heavy for a nearby road bridge and DB won't let anyone take the engines out unless they're being overhauled on site at Toton. So I was told that GBRf walked away from the table, which I think is fair if DB are going to be that ridiculous over an asset which is seeing it's last chance at overhaul.

So the other story is that GBRf are going to overhaul some 56's and put 66 engines in them, re-engineering the whole loco. The other day I could see that there's been a massive shuffle about at Leicester and a whole rake of 56's has been put together with a 47 at the front ready to take them off somewhere! So that looks like it will be coming off. Personally, I think it's throwing good money after bad and that those 56's should be run as they are, without the re-engineering. Not because I'm any sort of great lover of the 56, but because they aren't a perfect bed for this overhaul. Something that rides badly and has poor traction controls isn't going to be any better with a GM power unit...

Is there a source for this? Seems a bit implausible and far fetched to me. Sort of like one of those wobble threads that start with 'My idea for class xxx' and documents a crackpot scheme that they can't believe no one has thought of before.

 

[RingingEars66]

Is there a source for this? Seems a bit implausible and far fetched to me. Sort of like one of those wobble threads that start with 'My idea for class xxx' and documents a crackpot scheme that they can't believe no one has thought of before.

Lets just say I've heard it from the people who were there and have made these actual decisions. They happen to be my bosses.

 

[Rail Blues]

Lets just say I've heard it from the people who were there and have made these actual decisions. They happen to be my bosses.

I know it is April fools day, but to what possible end?

The whole 'plan' makes no sense whatsoever. Whereabouts are the 66 engines going to come from?

 

[RingingEars66]

I know it is April fools day, but to what possible end?

The whole 'plan' makes no sense whatsoever. Whereabouts are the 66 engines going to come from?

No April fools, that's me in the attached photo. But I don't know, they might well be a different GM engine. The 56 stuff was something said by the folks at the top, then the specifics were all rumour until we saw them shunted together at Leicester, apparently on their way down to Eastleigh.

 

[hwl]

No April fools, that's me in the attached photo. But I don't know, they might well be a different GM engine. The 56 stuff was something said by the folks at the top, then the specifics were all rumour until we saw them shunted together at Leicester, apparently on their way down to Eastleigh.

There will be plenty of 645 engines (as in the 59s) around that could get refurbed and upgraded (the main difference is 1" is stroke length)

 

[Harbornite]

I know it is April fools day, but to what possible end?

The whole 'plan' makes no sense whatsoever. Whereabouts are the 66 engines going to come from?

Re-engineering Class 56s isn't a really new idea. It was suggested back in 2016.

https://www.railmagazine.com/news/f...rs-re-engineered-56s-as-a-heavy-haul-solution

"Class 56s could be re-engineered with new power units as a cost-effective solution to the freight industry’s need for heavy haul locomotives.

UK Rail Leasing aims to re-engineer one of its 15 Type 5s, and says a locomotive could be ready by the end of 2017. The Leicester company says it has identified as many as seven operators (home and abroad) that may require such locomotives."

 

[Totonbanker]

Would a full list of locos at toton tmd be satisfactory, or are you after only those on the left bank?

If you want a full report of 60s at toton pm me and I'll send you a tops list, otherwise I'm afraid I can't help

Hi thatwould be great, but as a new member I cant see any facility to pm you ?.

 

[trainmania100]

Hi thatwould be great, but as a new member I cant see any facility to pm you ?.

Please see below stored pool for Toton
Unfortunately this thread was 2018 and unfortunately I haven't been to Toton for a while but here's a stored pool of 60s

60003 WQCA TOTONPTSP TOTONPTSP D

60004 WQCA TOTON UP TOTON TMD D

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60008 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U

60009 WQCA SC ENT C TOTONPTSP D

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60013 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP F U

60014 WQCA TOTON UP TOTON TMD U

60018 WQCA TOTON UP TOTON TMD D

60022 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP F U

60023 WQCA SANDAR BS TOTON UP U

60025 WQCA SANDAR BS TOTON UP D

60027 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTON UP S

60030 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U

60031 WQCA TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U

60032 WQCA TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U

60033 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP F D

60034 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U

60035 WQBA TOTONN YD TOTON TMD U

60036 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U

60037 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTON UP U

60038 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTON TMD D

60041 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP F U

60042 WQCA TOTONN YD TOTON UP U

60043 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U

60045 WQBA TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F D

60048 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP F U

60049 WQBA TOTONN YD TOTON TMD U

60051 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP F D

60052 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP F U

60053 WQCA TOTONN YD TOTON TMD U

60057 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP D

60058 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP D

60060 WQDA TOTONN YD TOTON TMD D

60061 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U

60064 WQCA TOTONPTSP TOTONPTSP F U

60067 WQCA TOTONPTSP TOTON UP X

60068 WQCA TOTONN YD TOTON TMD U

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60070 WQCA TOTONNY20 TOTON TMD U

60071 WQBA TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F D

60072 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP F U

60073 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP F U

60075 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U

60077 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U

60078 WQCA TOTON UP TOTON TMD U

60079 WQAB TOTON TMD TOTON TMD U

60080 WQCA TOTON UP TOTON TMD D

60082 WQCA CREWEIEMD CREWE EMD D

60083 WQCA TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U

60084 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP F D

60088 WQCA SANDAR BS TOTON TMD U

60089 WQCA TOTON UP TOTON UP U

60090 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U

60093 WQCA TOTONPTSP TOTON UP F D

60094 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP F U

60097 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTON UP U

60098 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP F U

60099 WQCA TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U

 

[Totonbanker]

Please see below stored pool for Toton
Unfortunately this thread was 2018 and unfortunately I haven't been to Toton for a while but here's a stored pool of 60s

Great many thanks !