Class 442s

[GodAtum]

Ive been very lucky last week as all the trains I went on from East Croydon - Victoria and back were 442s! I had a weekly 1st class ticket so I enjoyed the better seats Does anyone know how long Southern will keep these units running on that route?

 

[Pumbaa]

They are now a permanent fixture on Brighton express workings.

 

[Fincra5]

Yes indeed they are, which makes them a complete pain during commutes

 

[Southern]

Southern live running information reporting the following this evening:

19:19 Brighton to London Victoria due 20:10
This train will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
This is due to a train fault.

20:36 London Victoria to Brighton due 21:30
This train will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
This is due to a train fault.

21:49 Brighton to London Victoria due 22:40
This train will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
This is due to a train fault.

23:06 London Victoria to Brighton due 00:01
This train will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
This is due to a train fault.

 

[Ivo]

Surely that's only one unit that's failed then? Isn't that all one diagram?

...Are they short of spare stock or something? Do they have nothing to cover?

 

[ushawk]

Probably some stock is faulty and there isnt any other stock avaliable to cover it, so they would just run the service short-formed, better than cancelling a service.

 

[Southern]

It was all one diagram. More this morning (Thursday):

Formed of 5 coaches instead of 10
0430 Victoria to Gatwick
0520 Gatwick to Victoria
0615 Victoria to Brighton
06:56 Brighton to London Victoria service will start from Gatwick Airport. This train will be formed of 8 coaches instead of 10.

All but the 06:56 are part of the same diagram. Upon arrival at Brighton, the 0615 works the 0730 return.

 

[Helvellyn]

What's the number of seats in each coach now following refurbishment by Southern?

 

[swt_passenger]

What's the number of seats in each coach now following refurbishment by Southern?

DTSO(A) 74S
TSO 76S
MBC 24F/28S
TSO(W) 66S
DTSO(B) 74S

The total for the 5 cars is almost the same as an 8 car 460...

 

[The Barlow Boy]

DTSO(A) 74S
TSO 76S
MBC 24F/28S
TSO(W) 66S
DTSO(B) 74S

The total for the 5 cars is almost the same as an 8 car 460...

But they're so much more comfortable.

 

[Southern]

Don't know if anyone is interested but another short formation:

15:06 London Victoria to Brighton due 15:57
This train will be formed of 8 coaches instead of 10.

13:49 Brighton to London Victoria due 14:40
This train will be formed of 8 coaches instead of 10.

I'm guessing 377.

 

[SprinterMan]

But they're so much more comfortable.

Do you mean a 460 or 442 is more comfortable?

 

[ladydsm]

I find the 442 seats much more comfortable than 460s but have heard the drivers find the driving seats very uncomfortable but at least it keeps them awake.

 

[MrC]

have heard the drivers find the driving seats very uncomfortable

Really? I wonder if they've changed them during the recent refurb as I found 442 cabs a hell of a lot more comfortable than the more modern kit we've got now (although I don't miss the draughts and leaks!).