Class 43 disposals

[trainswitheddy]

Looks like 43315 is your profile pic as well

Long day for you mate!

Brutal

I hate both of you
Thanks for giving me a good laugh guys

 

[Yorkshire09876]

I make it 34 including 43311/315 and 41002.

Surprisingly few, given how quickly the ROSCOs dispatched large numbers of Mk3s to the scrapyards.

 

[43096]

Surprisingly few, given how quickly the ROSCOs dispatched large numbers of Mk3s to the scrapyards.

Indeed, but part of that is down to shortening the retained GWR and ScotRail sets from eight to five or four car. Add in power cars going to Colas and RailAdventure with no trailers and it becomes more understandable.

 

[ExRes]

Reported on WNXX that 43315 has already been broken up, hopefully @trainswitheddy won't read this especially as they used a blunt saw for most of the cutting work

Also reported that 43091 has been dropped at a small railway site at Henstridge

 

[trainswitheddy]

Reported on WNXX that 43315 has already been broken up, hopefully @trainswitheddy won't read this especially as they used a blunt saw for most of the cutting work

Dark sunglasses pal. Works a treat!

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Also reported that 43091 has been dropped at a small railway site at Henstridge

Can I just ask to clarify if 43091 has simply been dropped off at the site, or literally accidentally dropped from a crane there like 70 012 was?

 

[ExRes]

Can I just ask to clarify if 43091 has simply been dropped off at the site, or literally accidentally dropped from a crane there like 70 012 was?

Definitely not a 70012 job, had a quick look last night and I couldn't find railway and Henstridge mentioned together, there is an airfield there so maybe the first Class 43 glider is on the drawing board

 

[Wyrleybart]

I make it 34 including 43311/315 and 41002.

Reminds. Was 41002 cut before 43198 was delivered ?
in other words were there ever 198 power cars in total ?

 

[43096]

Reminds. Was 41002 cut before 43198 was delivered ?
in other words were there ever 198 power cars in total ?

41002 (43001) was cut in 1990 so all 199 power cars did exist at the same time.

 

[Ashley Hill]

IIRC 41002 (43001) was scrapped in 1990 long after 43198 was delivered.

 

[Sun Chariot]

Thanks @43096 and @Ashley Hill - I didn't realise prototype 43001 (41002) lasted until 1990. Where was it stored? So I suppose the preservation movement had no interest in it, or access to it; and the NRM already had 43000 (41001) safely stored away.

 

[43096]

Thanks @43096 and @Ashley Hill - I didn't realise prototype 43001 (41002) lasted until 1990. Where was it stored? So I suppose the preservation movement had no interest in it, or access to it; and the NRM already had 43000 (41001) safely stored away.

43001 was stored in Derby, I think either within the Loco Works or on the RTC. There was no HST interest group, let alone preservation, back then - 125 Group wasn’t formed until 1994.

 

[xotGD]

43001 was stored in Derby, I think either within the Loco Works or on the RTC. There was no HST interest group, let alone preservation, back then - 125 Group wasn’t formed until 1994.

At Derby in 1987:

 

[Ashley Hill]

I remember seeing them parked up at Derby Works in the mid 80s. They could be seen when approaching the station if you knew where to look.

 

[Sun Chariot]

At Derby in 1987:

What a scalp; nice one I didn't ever do a Derby Works visit; goodness knows why. Crewe (1986) and Swindon (1985) for their 40s - plus the wonders of D818 at Swindon and 84008 still at Crewe. Happy memories

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There was no HST interest group, let alone preservation, back then

Indeed. I tolerated them purely for the noise of the Valenta and for covering miles (in the days when service 125mph was the norm). Many I knew in the 1980s hated them.

 

[The_Train]

Definitely not a 70012 job, had a quick look last night and I couldn't find railway and Henstridge mentioned together, there is an airfield there so maybe the first Class 43 glider is on the drawing board

I have found a miniature/narrow gauge type railway in the area called the Gartell Light Railway - https://maps.app.goo.gl/DiNspcz5uTiqz7Ea6

Maybe they are taking it for display purposes........or re-gauging the power car

 

[37114]

I have found a miniature/narrow gauge type railway in the area called the Gartell Light Railway - https://maps.app.goo.gl/DiNspcz5uTiqz7Ea6

Maybe they are taking it for display purposes........or re-gauging the power car

It is at Henstridge airfield, private collection near AJN steel apparently

 

[The_Train]

It is at Henstridge airfield, private collection near AJN steel apparently

That would certainly make more sense in terms of space but ruins my dream of getting HST haulage on some new track

 

[ExRes]

Another one reported on WNXX this evening, 43191 seen yesterday on the A14 en route from Mid Norfolk Railway to EMR Kingsbury

 

[Royston Vasey]

Although both 43311 and 43315 have had some form of impact to the lower gangway area, the giveaway from this photo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/terryglos/54645673253/) as to which is which is the fading of the red at the back of the power car.

Unmistakably an impact profile and height you'd expect from the nose of another power car, so not surprising it's happened to more than one!

Indeed. I tolerated them purely for the noise of the Valenta and for covering miles (in the days when service 125mph was the norm). Many I knew in the 1980s hated them.

Similarly, one day we'll all be going misty eyed as the last few 66s rumble on, on their last legs!

 

[ExRes]

Similarly, one day we'll all be going misty eyed as the last few 66s rumble on, on their last legs!

We're already into that stage with the 67s, no mist in my eyes for them though

 

[trainswitheddy]

Has 314 been cut up yet? Or still operational?

 

[Razorblades]

Has 314 been cut up yet? Or still operational?

Mid Norfolk Railway, slumbering, as far as WNXX says.

 

[37114]

Similarly, one day we'll all be going misty eyed as the last few 66s rumble on, on their last legs!

Speak for yourself, I will quite happily gas axe them...

 

[Royston Vasey]

Speak for yourself, I will quite happily gas axe them...

That's my point really, that is probably what the enthusiasts would have said about the HSTs when they were everywhere in the 80s replacing Deltics, Peaks and Hoovers!

 

[37114]

That's my point really, that is probably what the enthusiasts would have said about the HSTs when they were everywhere in the 80s replacing Deltics, Peaks and Hoovers!

No "probably", they did.. I remember reading that when 46035 went Mainline in the mid 1990s, at least one enthusiast had broken his "No HST travel" rule to get there. Times have definitely changed!

 

[Vinyl_Lap]

I'll miss the plinking sound of the 66s. And I grew up with 47s and 57s aplenty.

 

[xotGD]

That's my point really, that is probably what the enthusiasts would have said about the HSTs when they were everywhere in the 80s replacing Deltics, Peaks and Hoovers!

Some of is still take that view of HSTs.

 

[ExRes]

Another one reported on WNXX this evening, 43191 seen yesterday on the A14 en route from Mid Norfolk Railway to EMR Kingsbury

Another one reported this morning, 43174 also by road from MNR to EMR Kingsbury, this pair were moved from Ely in March

 

[JKF]

It is at Henstridge airfield, private collection near AJN steel apparently

Now for sale (minus engine) on Facebook marketplace for potential glamping use (!)

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